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Old 02-13-2015, 07:23 PM
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How many guys have we seen that have spent well over $2k on shiny stuff, then put on a set of BFG's? Start from the pavement and work up!
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For what it's worth - look wise if you are going bigger that 15" I would go 17" front and 18" rear.
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I have been thinking about the Avons, but at nearly $2k for four I am struggling to see their worth. Are they really that good?

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Tough choice but I'm leaning towards the Avon's this go round. Good traction and I would think a better ride for cruising.
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To expand on "yes" - I cannot think of any other place one could spend $2000 on their car and get a greater performance increase.
Guys spend THOUSANDS to add horsepower but balk at the cost of tires to actually be able to use it!

Avon CR6ZZ's are closer to $1600 for a set and yes, they are worth it.
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Guys spend THOUSANDS to add horsepower but balk at the cost of tires to actually be able to use it!

Avon CR6ZZ's are closer to $1600 for a set and yes, they are worth it.
Yup, the only way to go and probably the best investment you will make after the thousands of dollars on everything else!

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I have been thinking about the Avons, but at nearly $2k for four I am struggling to see their worth. Are they really that good?

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Large Arbor - the very FIRST time you get on a cloverleaf on ramp and start pushing down on the go peddle a bit, you will know beyond a doubt that they were worth it.
Now stop waffling and get out your checkbook!
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I've seen MT S/R tires coping exceptionally well on a 600hp Cobra, so if you're saying you can "feel" the value of the Avons on public roads, you must be driving at 10/10ths.
I can understand the desire for some people to run billboards for the look, but as the Avons don't have that period style appearance, it then just comes down to the grip and performance they offer. I'm intrigued whether you could really feel any difference between them and MT S/Rs in perhaps anything other than dumping the clutch from a standing start.
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desire for some people to run billboards for the look, but as the Avons don't have that period style appearance
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For comparison: Replica 289...





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....the white car has Avons CR6ZZ 245 and 295 / 15s
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Magnesium wheels on the red car? Love that grey color!!
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Avons with stenciled Good Year painted lettering or is it the rubber letters that are glued on?
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Really? So, what exactly is the difference?
Really Pete? Now don't take this the wrong way, because your car is one of my favorite Cobras, but that's why I'm surprised you (with your awesome obsession for detail) would try to say they look the same when they simply don't.

Sure, paint GOOD YEAR on a tire and you'll fool most people, but the sidewall overall shape, the sidewall profile, the relation of the sidewall to where it meets the tire tread, the tread shape, width and pattern...it's all different.

The Avon shape is great, and I'm not saying it's sub standard in any way. In fact there are a million reasons why Avon make a better tire than the billboard. It just doesn't seem as though you would be able to duplicate the sidewall shape of a bias ply tire with a radial tire. There are probably a million reasons why a manufacturer wouldn't want to anyway.
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Really Pete? Now don't take this the wrong way, because your car is one of my favorite Cobras, but that's why I'm surprised you (with your awesome obsession for detail) would try to say they look the same when they simply don't.

Sure, paint GOOD YEAR on a tire and you'll fool most people, but the sidewall overall shape, the sidewall profile, the relation of the sidewall to where it meets the tire tread, the tread shape, width and pattern...it's all different.

The Avon shape is great, and I'm not saying it's sub standard in any way. In fact there are a million reasons why Avon make a better tire than the billboard. It just doesn't seem as though you would be able to duplicate the sidewall shape of a bias ply tire with a radial tire. There are probably a million reasons why a manufacturer wouldn't want to anyway.
I guess I had not isolated the shape of Goodyear billboards from other 15" tires.
Now it is obvious, bill boards do look awesome and the shape, the bulge, and the letters really complete the look of the car. The radials don't have that shape.

I am pretty sure I am going with 18's and a 335 rear. I like that look although some do not.

Thanks for pointing out that subtlety.
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Avons with stenciled Good Year painted lettering or is it the rubber letters that are glued on?
Rubber letters glued on -> from these guys Gallery - Tire Paint Pen Lettering Alternative
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I guess I had not isolated the shape of Goodyear billboards from other 15" tires.
Now it is obvious, bill boards do look awesome and the shape, the bulge, and the letters really complete the look of the car. The radials don't have that shape.

I am pretty sure I am going with 18's and a 335 rear. I like that look although some do not.

Thanks for pointing out that subtlety.
I intend to go 18's myself, I see it as part of a suspension upgrade along with better brakes. What about rims? Dare to be different again? Some very nice monoblock options out there.

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I intend to go 18's myself, I see it as part of a suspension upgrade along with better brakes. What about rims? Dare to be different again? Some very nice monoblock options out there.

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I looked at other rims and the cost made me lose interest.
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Detroit - I like the look also and after seeing the SPF raffle car up close, I'm convinced that new tires and rims are in the forecast for #2899.
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Really Pete? Now don't take this the wrong way, because your car is one of my favorite Cobras
Thanks Craig, no I don't take constructive criticism wrong.

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