Misconceptions

[jhv48]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Oh, come on, you insult like a girl. You can do better than thatw"

Once again, thank you for proving my point for me.

My point:
Resorting to name calling and belittling (as an adult) is a sign of..... well, we all know what it's a sign of.

When children resort to name calling and belittling, it's a result of immaturity, frustration and of them trying to win an argument/discussion/fight by attempting to elevate their perceived status by attempting to bring the other child down.

Thankfully, most of us mature and outgrow this affliction. Some, I guess, never do.

As Joe Friday used to say "Just the facts, ma'am, just the facts."

[Joe's Garage]

"Mr. Shelby identified the replicas of the Cobra 427 S/C with the designation CSX 4000."

Even Carroll Shelby referred to the continuations as replicas.
Do you still think you own the wheat while all the others are chaff

Take another dive and pop back up again, there will always be someone to poke the clown

[Thor maine]

Let us see, a real AC-Shelby-Ford Cobra 427 SC CSX3--- built 1960's sells for $a million dollars +/- . A Shelby Cobra 427 SC CSX 4--- replica built in 1990's to present selling for $150k or what ever they can on Pawn Stars for a publicity scheme. In 40 years from now real AC-Shelby-Ford Cobra 427SC will sell for much more than $a Million. Forty years from now a real ( maybe Kirkman) Shelby Cobras CSX replica will probably sell from around the same adjusted for inflation $150K +/-. Todays Real Shelby Cobra's ,by law are KIT CARS ( no engine, no drive train, does not meet crash or safety standards in United States). Todays AC CARS LTD HERITAGE real AC Cobra COB- COX serial number replica's sold from the factory with GM LS engine and drivetrain complete legal European sale. Real AC-SHELBY-FORD Cobra built in the 1960's with Ford engines and drivetrain from the factory complete 50 state legal for sale in the United States, AC CARS LTD built 1960's with Ford engines and drivetrain (Except for two examples with AC installed GM engines) from the factory complete European legal. Now Evan which one of the examples listed above is a KIT CAR? And refresh the courts memory which do you have??? You have been weighed, measured and found wanting. And the "Registry" is a very good read, I enjoy my copy but its true value can only be expressed in that while reading it in the bathroom and I just ran out of TP???

[JLip]

Originally Posted by itstock

I don't know how some of you can get so worked up one way or the other over these cars. There are most certainly better kit/replica manufacturers than others, whether real or perceived, and there is also a huge difference for many reasons in purchasing a true KIT car verses a turn key minus car.

Well said!

[Blue66]

Originally Posted by itstock View Post
I don't know how some of you can get so worked up one way or the other over these cars. There are most certainly better kit/replica manufacturers than others, whether real or perceived, and there is also a huge difference for many reasons in purchasing a true KIT car verses a turn key minus car.

I am old an wouldn't live long enuff to do a "kit". If I did get some time and ambition I would still only buy a finished roller.. Ok .. Goin for a drive. Have one question though. Should I worry about putting mileage on the car ??

[Ron61]

Naw, drive it all the time. They will never be worth nearly as much as an original one from the 60s.

Ron

Originally Posted by Blue66

Originally Posted by itstock View Post
I don't know how some of you can get so worked up one way or the other over these cars. There are most certainly better kit/replica manufacturers than others, whether real or perceived, and there is also a huge difference for many reasons in purchasing a true KIT car verses a turn key minus car.

I am old an wouldn't live long enuff to do a "kit". If I did get some time and ambition I would still only buy a finished roller.. Ok .. Goin for a drive. Have one question though. Should I worry about putting mileage on the car ??

[Blue66]

Originally Posted by Ron61

Naw, drive it all the time. They will never be worth nearly as much as an original one from the 60s.

Ron

Thats what I like to see !!! Its a CAR.. DRIVE it Had a garage queen Shelby that sat for 40 years. Its gone an now we have a driver again !! As far as worth it doesn't really matter to me but prices are climbing on the higher end cars. Oh God don't take that the wrong way guys.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by jhv48

Once again, thank you for proving my point for me.

And your point was????

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

"Mr. Shelby identified the replicas of the Cobra 427 S/C with the designation CSX 4000."

Even Carroll Shelby referred to the continuations as replicas.
Do you still think you own the wheat while all the others are chaff

Take another dive and pop back up again, there will always be someone to poke the clown

The above is another shining example of the fact you just don't get it. Anyway...

I answered your question. Now answer mine in post #158. Come on....yes or no. Your not avoiding it are you????

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Blue66

Thats what I like to see !!! Its a CAR.. DRIVE it Had a garage queen Shelby that sat for 40 years. Its gone an now we have a driver again !! As far as worth it doesn't really matter to me but prices are climbing on the higher end cars. Oh God don't take that the wrong way guys.

I've got over 8400 miles on the Shelby. Try to drive her every weekend. Agree they will never be worth what the originals are worth but will always bring more than a fake Cobra.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Thor maine

Let us see, a real AC-Shelby-Ford Cobra 427 SC CSX3--- built 1960's sells for $a million dollars +/- . A Shelby Cobra 427 SC CSX 4--- replica built in 1990's to present selling for $150k or what ever they can on Pawn Stars for a publicity scheme. In 40 years from now real AC-Shelby-Ford Cobra 427SC will sell for much more than $a Million. Forty years from now a real ( maybe Kirkman) Shelby Cobras CSX replica will probably sell from around the same adjusted for inflation $150K +/-. Todays Real Shelby Cobra's ,by law are KIT CARS ( no engine, no drive train, does not meet crash or safety standards in United States). Todays AC CARS LTD HERITAGE real AC Cobra COB- COX serial number replica's sold from the factory with GM LS engine and drivetrain complete legal European sale. Real AC-SHELBY-FORD Cobra built in the 1960's with Ford engines and drivetrain from the factory complete 50 state legal for sale in the United States, AC CARS LTD built 1960's with Ford engines and drivetrain (Except for two examples with AC installed GM engines) from the factory complete European legal. Now Evan which one of the examples listed above is a KIT CAR? And refresh the courts memory which do you have??? You have been weighed, measured and found wanting. And the "Registry" is a very good read, I enjoy my copy but its true value can only be expressed in that while reading it in the bathroom and I just ran out of TP???

Ugh. Don't answer my question with a question. Just answer my question please.

Simple yes or no will do.

[Thor maine]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Ugh. Don't answer my question with a question. Just answer my question please.

Simple yes or no will do.

Ditto!

[jhv48]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

And your point was????

Read post 161. Should answer your question.

[Joe's Garage]

This is all anyone needs to know about our resident clown -

Originally Posted by REAL 1

... Agree they will never be worth what the originals are worth but will always bring more than a fake Cobra.

Our resident clown fails to understand that his continuation is a fake cobra, a kit car replica like all the rest as ruled by Judge Walsh in Court, and Carroll Shelby has identified his continuations as kit car replicas providing their CSX4000 designation to the court as part of that ruling.

To keep the illusion alive, our resident clown denigrates his fellow cobra enthusiasts telling them they own a fake compared to his REAL_1, the chaff instead of the wheat, they are the wannabes wishing they could own a continuation. It's all here in black & white.

Misconceptions

Our resident clown is what the OP was referring to in his opening post -
My point in sharing this conversation is to express the opinion that many of the misconceptions about Cobra replicas are being fed by the comments of replica owners (and sellers) who want the uninformed public to think that their particular replica is for some reason better than most of the others.

I'm thinking we give our resident clown a name. Other clowns of notoriety are 'Bozo the Clown', 'Krusty the Clown', 'Ronald McDonald', 'Weary Willie the Clown' and so on. How about for our clown 'Blow Hard the Clown'?

[DanEC]

Did JAMO take the week off? Does this thread have some redeeming quality - it seems to have gone seriously off track from the original post.

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by DanEC

Did JAMO take the week off? Does this thread have some redeeming quality - it seems to have gone seriously off track from the original post.

I was wondering where he was. Especially since a new mushroom just sprouted on the site on this same subject!

I for one would like to just get back to identifying parts, seeing fixes and learning from this site. I see no one helped or learn anything here on this thread or the other one.

My 2c

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by Bernica

I see no one helped or learn anything here on this thread or the other one.

My 2c

Nor any of the dozens before them. I'll raise you 2c.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by jhv48

Read post 161. Should answer your question.

I agree 100% with your post in #161. Please tell me, where have I called people names on a personal basis? Please show me. Love to know.

BTW have you by any chance others name calling here? Just maybe a little? Maybe. They get a pass eh? Douche, clown and the like don't qualify I guess.

BTW have you seen post #174. . Need I say more.

Again, a shining example of seeing only what you want to see.

Par for the course around here.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

This is all anyone needs to know about our resident clown -



Our resident clown fails to understand that his continuation is a fake cobra, a kit car replica like all the rest as ruled by Judge Walsh in Court, and Carroll Shelby has identified his continuations as kit car replicas providing their CSX4000 designation to the court as part of that ruling.

To keep the illusion alive, our resident clown denigrates his fellow cobra enthusiasts telling them they own a fake compared to his REAL_1, the chaff instead of the wheat, they are the wannabes wishing they could own a continuation. It's all here in black & white.

Misconceptions

Our resident clown is what the OP was referring to in his opening post -
My point in sharing this conversation is to express the opinion that many of the misconceptions about Cobra replicas are being fed by the comments of replica owners (and sellers) who want the uninformed public to think that their particular replica is for some reason better than most of the others.

I'm thinking we give our resident clown a name. Other clowns of notoriety are 'Bozo the Clown', 'Krusty the Clown', 'Ronald McDonald', 'Weary Willie the Clown' and so on. How about for our clown 'Blow Hard the Clown'?

Still lost on the legal thing I see and still calling names to make your point. I see. Very effective. It does put you in your true light though.

Still haven't answered my question, however, I doubt you will since you can't or refuse to since name calling is more your style in making your point.

BTW the original post was referring to an owner of a Spf. Another effort at taking bits and pieces of what someone says to put it out of context to suit your effort. Nice.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Thor maine

Ditto!

I did already.