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09-16-2015, 07:30 AM
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By reading the comments posted in this thread, it is evident even owners of cobras have challenged information.
A true character study for us to understand the public as they 'AWE' at the classic lines and heart pounding exhaust.
I find many do not know what it is.
Tru
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09-16-2015, 07:54 AM
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Tru,
I also think that part of the problem is the old kits which weren't very good or safe in many instances. The ones now are far superior to those old ones and many people make them even better with their modifications. About any kit can be made into a very good car now if whoever builds it takes the time to do a good job and changes anything that isn't good. That friend of mine that is building the GT-40 has done some fantastic modifications on it and he added a rear camera so he can see what is behind him along with other modifications, some of which the company has now incorporated into their kits. I think Kirkham and Shelby Cobras will always be the top of the line, especially if anyone wants to sell theirs later on, but I have seen some really great ERA, Factory Five, Superformance and other cars at the shows.
Ron
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09-16-2015, 08:25 AM
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If CSX 2000 is the only real one, I'm never going to have a real one..........
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09-16-2015, 09:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy
I was at a local cruise-in Saturday when I met a nice guy who showed up in a Superformance Cobra replica. ...... The original owner seldom drove the car, preferring to trailer it to car shows,.......
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This baffles me. To own a car only to drive a lumbering truck and pull it around behind you. It's like having a trophy wife and separate bedrooms. 'Good night babe. See you in the morning'
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFEKR9p33qA[/ame]
Go figure.
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09-16-2015, 09:29 AM
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I used to work with a guy who always had the best, the fastest, the best deal, it didn't matter what it was.
What you had was ****.
The Nut
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09-16-2015, 09:37 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/embed/vqClWdOcWog"
Its more like this for me now. Enjoy way more. That's why I stopped trailering it around.
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09-16-2015, 09:46 AM
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I don't know, maybe I'm an outlier here but there's a lot of assumption in the OP's comments.
First of all there are boorish people that own cobra's, ferraris, and F150 pickup's. To read much into the ownerships demographics and/or knowledge base is based on what exactly?
Also while everybody should embrace whatever approach blows their skirt up, last I heard a "kit" is just that, a partial or full collection of parts or pieces constructed by you, others, amateurs or pros. I built a lot of models from "kits". Some guys build cars from "kits". Long standing factories, in anything, usually beat Joe-Bob, plumber by day.
This is a free market for these cars and there are reasons for a wide price strata.
Your car is your car and if you believe it's the absolute best for whatever reason, hey, great country, have fun, the broad generalizations kinda get a little dicy.
And FWIW I've spent decades in the financial world, so misconceptions and dealing with them is just a part of life. I always figured it was their world, we just get to live in it.
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09-16-2015, 12:22 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron61
Tru,
I also think that part of the problem is the old kits which weren't very good or safe in many instances. The ones now are far superior to those old ones and many people make them even better with their modifications. About any kit can be made into a very good car now if whoever builds it takes the time to do a good job and changes anything that isn't good. That friend of mine that is building the GT-40 has done some fantastic modifications on it and he added a rear camera so he can see what is behind him along with other modifications, some of which the company has now incorporated into their kits. I think Kirkham and Shelby Cobras will always be the top of the line, especially if anyone wants to sell theirs later on, but I have seen some really great ERA, Factory Five, Superformance and other cars at the shows.
Ron
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Regardless of the quality of the kit or roller, I'm more concerned about the folks who build, modify or maintain these cars who don't seem to know the difference between a pipe wrench and a torque wrench. In the 15 months since purchasing my car I've torn apart and re-built a lot of stuff that just made me shake my head, including: - 1/2 of rear main seal installed backwards
- gas tank rollover valve installed backwards
- valve lash set as if the lifters were solid - and they're hydraulic
- gas tank not properly vented
- emergency flash wire cut under the dash
- brake lights didn't work unless ignition was on
- shifter lever making solid contact with tunnel opening so it wouldn't fully engage 5th gear
- one muffler insert was installed with louvers facing forward, the other facing backward
- etc.
Yikes. All fixed now.
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09-16-2015, 01:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cycleguy55
Regardless of the quality of the kit or roller, I'm more concerned about the folks who build, modify or maintain these cars who don't seem to know the difference between a pipe wrench and a torque wrench.
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What's your concern? Those of us that are technically-challenged should be rounded up and put in detention camps?
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09-16-2015, 04:02 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
What's your concern? Those of us that are technically-challenged should be rounded up and put in detention camps?
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Yes
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09-16-2015, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
What's your concern? Those of us that are technically-challenged should be rounded up and put in detention camps?
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My hope is that those who are technically-challenged recognize their limitations and get others (who know what they're doing) to do the work on their cars.
But detention camps are not a bad idea.
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09-16-2015, 05:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cycleguy55
My hope is that those who are technically-challenged recognize their limitations and get others (who know what they're doing) to do the work on their cars.
But detention camps are not a bad idea.
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I recognized a LONG time ago that I was technically-challenged and that might my pen (checkbook) would be mightier than my sword (socket wrench). I think one of, long ago, but still vivid, memories were of me changing my oil and filter on my '66 Corvette and having to stab my filter with a screwdriver because I couldn't wrench it off.
So, I think most people will realize their shortcomings quickly, but I think you must be speaking not of the technically-challenged, but of the STUPID. That's a entirely different and FAR LARGER category.
If were talking about detention camps for segments of the population, I can think of a few other categories of people to be put in detention camps, the STUPID, being one of them.
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09-16-2015, 06:15 PM
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Technically challenged = ramming a screw driver through the oil filter to get it off.
Stupid = ramming a screw driver through the oil filter to get it on.
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09-16-2015, 07:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
What's your concern? Those of us that are technically-challenged should be rounded up and put in detention camps?
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Better yet...how about detention camps for illegal immigrants?
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09-16-2015, 08:11 PM
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Evan...leave the politics at home. Thanks.
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09-16-2015, 08:40 PM
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Evan...leave the politics at home. Thanks.
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Just checking to see if your paying attention.
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09-17-2015, 01:34 AM
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Not to give you a complex or anything, but there is a vast network of folks that observe and report on every damn thing you post.
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09-17-2015, 02:47 AM
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I agree with you 100%. The things that I don't have the room or equipment or actual experience to do I have done by people that know what they are doing and how to do it. I had my Coupe completely gone through by a very knowledgeable and good mechanic and it was then tuned by Robello Racing. I can do most of the regular things but when it came to the tuning and some of the more complicated things I wanted it done correctly as I raced it some and drive it hard. I did get scales and had it corner balanced as well. The few people that we still have around here who have these cars do much the same as I do.
Ron
QUOTE=cycleguy55;1362977]Regardless of the quality of the kit or roller, I'm more concerned about the folks who build, modify or maintain these cars who don't seem to know the difference between a pipe wrench and a torque wrench. In the 15 months since purchasing my car I've torn apart and re-built a lot of stuff that just made me shake my head, including: - 1/2 of rear main seal installed backwards
- gas tank rollover valve installed backwards
- valve lash set as if the lifters were solid - and they're hydraulic
- gas tank not properly vented
- emergency flash wire cut under the dash
- brake lights didn't work unless ignition was on
- shifter lever making solid contact with tunnel opening so it wouldn't fully engage 5th gear
- one muffler insert was installed with louvers facing forward, the other facing backward
- etc.
Yikes. All fixed now.[/quote]
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09-17-2015, 06:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I recognized a LONG time ago that I was technically-challenged and that might my pen (checkbook) would be mightier than my sword (socket wrench). I think one of, long ago, but still vivid, memories were of me changing my oil and filter on my '66 Corvette and having to stab my filter with a screwdriver because I couldn't wrench it off.
So, I think most people will realize their shortcomings quickly, but I think you must be speaking not of the technically-challenged, but of the STUPID. That's a entirely different and FAR LARGER category.
If were talking about detention camps for segments of the population, I can think of a few other categories of people to be put in detention camps, the STUPID, being one of them.
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Don't knock the stupid! They buy things. Like over priced car kits, for one! All you need to do is see how many bids there are on eBay for .... (You name it)
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09-17-2015, 07:12 AM
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Die hard Ford guy from the olden years Did everything myself. 1985/2004 worked for guys with Buick GNs. Prob 75% didn't know or care to make the car faster. That was my job. Now got into another BBFord Cobra an really don't feel like working on it. That's where son in laws come in .
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