Interesting Article from Hemmings Buyer Guide regarding Current Production Cobras

[Joe's Garage]

Originally Posted by CompClassics

For all those nay-sayers on "CSX" Continuation Series valuations...

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I haven't seen any alloy CSX 4000/6000/7000/8000 for $240,000. If I were Evan, I'd sell at $240,000 all day long and twice on Tuesdays. If you can find any sales publicly verifiable over $200K, please post a link.

Hillbank always has a few for sale asking $160,000-199,0000.

Now the CSX 1000 and CSX Resurrection Series, yes, over $200,000.

Give the Dubai classifieds a shot, you may find some young Sheik's son busted the $200K barrier on an impulse buy.

[CompClassics]

If you are going to post what you believe are relevant facts at least vet them out before you pull the trigger, something about apples and oranges come to mind.

RodKnock
You asked in a previous post for proof from anyone that anyone was advertising a Continuation Series for over $200K. I looked at it as a challenge, challenge completed! There have also been completed sales of alloy bodied Continuation Series Cobras that have gone as hight as $349K that can be found on the Internet if you really wanted to look for the info.

[mullen2]

Auctions America: 1962 Shelby 50th Anniversary Cobra

Looks like its one of 4 Alloy body cars, hence the much higher price. Above is a link to view it on SAAC site. It was auctioned recently and looks like it bid up to 200,000USD and did not meet reserve. Someone needs to fill it up with fuel so it sits lower in the rear...

I plan to go take a look at the car in Sarasota since its close. That black with red guts in nice!

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by CompClassics

If you are going to post what you believe are relevant facts at least vet them out before you pull the trigger, something about apples and oranges come to mind.

Is that not considered "bickering"? Oy vey.

I'm happy to admit a mistake. I make them all the time. Are you mistake-free in your life? I really doubt it.

And BTW, did you "vet out" and post that the alloy CSX8000 was an asking price and not an actual transaction? Makes a difference, no? In terms of asking prices and actual transactions, something about apples and oranges comes to mind. I got the impression that $280,000 is the value of that car.

But we were discussing Evan's CSX4206. Big block versus small block, apples and oranges, no?

Remember, you said "For all those nay-sayers on "CSX" Continuation Series valuations..."

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by mullen2

Auctions America: 1962 Shelby 50th Anniversary Cobra

Looks like its one of 4 Alloy body cars, hence the much higher price. Above is a link to view it on SAAC site. It was auctioned recently and looks like it bid up to 200,000USD and did not meet reserve. Someone needs to fill it up with fuel so it sits lower in the rear...

I plan to go take a look at the car in Sarasota since its close. That black with red guts in nice!

1 of 4 and a Special/Limited Edition to boot. Wow. I love the black/red combo. And I'd have to lower it too. Thank you for the info.

[CompClassics]

Oh-boy, I wasn't the one comparing 8000 Series Continuation Cobras to Evan's Cobra either I merely posted a ad that I had come across in Sports Car Digest.

[RodKnock]

Here's the link to the auction info:

1962 Shelby 50th Anniversary Cobra - Fort Lauderdale

I've got to admit that I wanted to verify the auction info, but after reading the listing, near the bottom of the page under "Addendum":

ADDENDUM

Please note the title states replica.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by CompClassics

Oh-boy, I wasn't the one comparing 8000 Series Continuation Cobras to Evan's Cobra either I merely posted a ad that I had come across in Sports Car Digest.

But previously, we were talking about Evan's CSX4206 and his thoughts on the value of his 427 S/C car?

OK. Sounds good. Thank you for your post.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by Joe's Garage

Throw the registry away, check yourself into a facility that reverses brainwashing.

Another quote taken so far out of context I can undoubtedly conclude you are intentionally trying to twist the facts.

You and a Donkey are also known by another common term.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I don't know what your Shelby Cobra replica is worth or how much it would cost to build it, but the source of that information has a conflict of interest. If he wants to keep anyone's business, he might want to give a client a "happy" news/appraisal. Without exposing it to the market, it's all just words.

Why don't you list your car on eBay with an overzealous reserve and see where the final bid comes in? MrMustang is great at spotting shill bids, so no shill bidding.

Also, state titles aren't the arbiters of what you're car is or isn't. In CA, your car would be a SPCNS, not a Shelby Cobra. IT IS A REPLICA, since replicas require special exemption(s) to be registered and legally driven on our US roads in 2015. If it were a genuine 1960's Shelby Cobra, then no special exemption would be necessary.

Let's call a spade a spade. Shall we?

Again, you fail to read and comprehend. I never said what my car was worth. What I did say was what it would cost to rebuild new.

I did say I would not sell it for $240K if I were to sell it now since I'm not looking to sell it so it would take more for me to give it up to motivate me to do so.

You also failed to comprehend or consider what I said about the details of the Continuation Cobra fit out.

As to your "replica" hackneyed non-sense and ridiculous reliance on state DMV's to prove your point I just can't waste my time with your confusion and erroneous arguments any longer. I can't help you. Sorry.

For those who are genuinely "confused" and not taking an intentionally obfuscatory position motivated by sour grapes it's all in the Registry.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by CompClassics

Oh-boy, I wasn't the one comparing 8000 Series Continuation Cobras to Evan's Cobra either I merely posted a ad that I had come across in Sports Car Digest.

You must be careful here especially if perceived to be pro-Shelby. It doesn't take much to be attacked.

This cite suffers from wide spread Shelby "sour grapeitis" It's epidemic here.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by CompClassics

If you are going to post what you believe are relevant facts at least vet them out before you pull the trigger, something about apples and oranges come to mind.

RodKnock
You asked in a previous post for proof from anyone that anyone was advertising a Continuation Series for over $200K. I looked at it as a challenge, challenge completed! There have also been completed sales of alloy bodied Continuation Series Cobras that have gone as hight as $349K that can be found on the Internet if you really wanted to look for the info.

Thanks for the info. Didn't know that.

Seems like some Continuation Cobras may be fetching prices getting close to COB territory. Hmmm. Imagine that.

[Joe's Garage]

Turn the crank, the wife's monkey dances.

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by CompClassics

For all those nay-sayers on "CSX" Continuation Series valuations...

1962 50th Anniversary Shelby Cobra 289 - Huh?
First onel built in 1912 then?

Should it NOT just be listed as 2012 50th Anniversary Shelby Cobra 289?

Pretty simple - As soon as you put 1962 in the title you're obligated to put "REPLICA" imho.


Either way nice car... love the look of the dual quads!

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I don't know what your Shelby Cobra replica is worth or how much it would cost to build it, but the source of that information has a conflict of interest.

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Again, you fail to read and comprehend. I never said what my car was worth. What I did say was what it would cost to rebuild new.

Uh, I'm failing to read and comprehend? Seriously, you're a lawyer? I never said that you said anything of your car's value. I said "I don't know what your car is worth." Sheesh.

But, you did say the following:

Originally Posted by REAL 1

While I don't know what my car would sell for since I'm not selling I do know Billy has told me that if I were to sell I could get over $200K.

You mentioned the nonsense about what your title says:

Originally Posted by REAL 1

You know at the end of the day despite all the BS and crap on this cite knocking my Cobra as a "replica' and a "kit" its a Shelby Cobra, its title says Shelby Cobra, it's manufacturer plaque says Shelby American (and not one acquired from Tony Branda and riveted on) and its in the World Registry of Cobras.

And I responded:

Originally Posted by RodKnock

Also, state titles aren't the arbiters of what you're car is or isn't. In CA, your car would be a SPCNS, not a Shelby Cobra. IT IS A REPLICA, since replicas require special exemption(s) to be registered and legally driven on our US roads in 2015. If it were a genuine 1960's Shelby Cobra, then no special exemption would be necessary.

Let's talk about reading comprehension, shall we? I'm confused? Talk about confusion, I think you're suffering from dementia or something.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

You also failed to comprehend or consider what I said about the details of the Continuation Cobra fit out.

I'm not failing to comprehend squat-ola. I understand, but don't care.

You can "fit out" all you want, but will next person pay for it? Personally, I'd care less. It's a REPLICA. I'm sure someone is out there might care that their REPLICA be authentic (), but will you get back $1 for $1? I don't know. And of course, don't care, beyond you constantly giving everyone here the estimate over and over.

Anyway, I thought you left? You're back again? Who can believe what you say anymore.

[REAL 1]

Rodknock: Yes, I know you couldn't care less. That's why you have likely the majority of posts on 43 pages. Same with the "guy" who keeps talking about turning a "crank". He's been doing more dancing than anyone. Well except for you.

Read the Registry my friend. Maybe the light will go on. Maybe not.

Oh, well.

[Joe's Garage]

For those who want to know how inflation has affected your replica's relative worth. Does not take into account supply and demand, swings in material costs, new vs. used etc. - just inflation of the USD over time.
Inflation Calculator - Consumer Price Index

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by CompClassics

RodKnock
You asked in a previous post for proof from anyone that anyone was advertising a Continuation Series for over $200K. I looked at it as a challenge, challenge completed! There have also been completed sales of alloy bodied Continuation Series Cobras that have gone as hight as $349K that can be found on the Internet if you really wanted to look for the info.

Ehhh. Sorry, incorrect. Not "advertising", but actual sales. For someone who didn't want to "bicker," and scolded me for not vetting my posts first, you're doing a fine job.

So, this is what I posted earlier in this thread:

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I haven't seen any alloy CSX 4000/6000/7000/8000 for $240,000. If I were Evan, I'd sell at $240,000 all day long and twice on Tuesdays. If you can find any sales publicly verifiable over $200K, please post a link.

Hillbank always has a few for sale asking $160,000-199,0000.

Now the CSX 1000 and CSX Resurrection Series, yes, over $200,000.

Asking prices are completely meaningless. If you have actual publicly verifiable sales transactions, then please post them. I subscribe to Keith Martin's Sports Car Market auction magazine and they have not posted an alloy CSX over $200,000 yet. And not that eBay is a perfect venue for pricing, but I haven't seen any there yet either.

And I never said prices over $200,000 are impossible, they're already bumping around that area. I just haven't seen any. And to be honest with you, with Kirkham and Shelby both significantly increasing prices over the past few years, it's definitely going to happen at some point. Maybe they have. But even one or two sales over $200,000 won't represent the entire market for any car. That's what auction magazines will tell you.

IIRC, way back in 2007-2008, when I purchased my car, Shelby alloy rollers were in the range of $95,000-$115,000. Kirkham rollers were about $70,000-$80,000. Today, alloy Shelby rollers are $160,000 and Kirkham rollers are $100,000 (raw, file finish, unpolished). If you get a polished Kirkham roller with center stripes, then they're $117,000. So, nothing is getting cheaper at this point, but then interest rates are 0%, so money is cheap.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Read the Registry my friend. Maybe the light will go on. Maybe not.

Oh, well.

Didn't you leave the "merry-go-round"? How many threads did you start on essentially the same topic? How many times have you left and then came back?

You mean the Registry where "certain liberties" were taken? That Registry? I've read it. It also states Shelby CSX4000's are "Cobra-like" and "true replicas." And the SAAC website has deleted the word "genuine."

I'll keep repeating things as long you keep repeating things.