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11-10-2015, 05:17 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by patrickt
But he adjusted the gas fireplace quite nicely. It's very snuggly now. I can sit there all warm and toasty, watch Graveyard Cars on the big screen, and glance at my Cobra through the open doorway. Then I call the dog up on the couch, put my feet up, and drift off to slumberland.
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You should try it sometime with your Cobra idling and the garage door closed.
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11-10-2015, 05:19 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimis
Hey tnc110, dont let these lads confuse you...
There is nothing wrong with a BDR, they're great package, value for money hard to beat, new modern parts, definitely an improvement technology wise on a CSX cobra.
The answer that question lies in what YOU want from your cobra.
If you enjoy the build process - then a FFR is probably better than a BDR,
If you want to track/race it then a BDR is probably not as good as a JBL, but better than a Kirkham (and I'm NOT suggesting Kirkhams cant be tracked, Morris tracks his successfully, but I couldn't get past the thought of binning an Alu body...).
Its all going to depend on YOUR personal preference, and what you rank more important to YOU.
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Dimis, you're wasting your breath.
I believe I spotted the OP at the Chevrolet dealership buying a Corvette.
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11-10-2015, 05:48 PM
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Half-Ass Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimis
If you just want a big a$$ed engine in a cobra to go in straight lines - try a Weineck... PS: how's your German and bank balance? You might need ample levels of both...
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Naaahhhh, that won't do... he still can't get over that "marching in to Paris" thing.
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11-10-2015, 05:58 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: cashiers,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Researching the right car now.
Posts: 26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
Dimis, you're wasting your breath.
I believe I spotted the OP at the Chevrolet dealership buying a Corvette.
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That is a big negative!!!
I'm set on a Cobra. All the new stuff is out dated in a few years and leaves the buyer wanting to update. No thanks. I love fast and loud, the Cobra is both for sure. I've been in love with cobras for a long time, and am finally at a place in my life where I can afford one. Unfortunately I am building a house and barn this year, so the Cobra is on hold at least until the barn is done. BUT, this is probably a good thing, gives me time to pick your brains!!! I glad to have the time to do a lot of research and pick the car that is exactly what I want and not have any regrets down the road.
I'm actually in the process of converting my motorcycle into a Cobra theme bike. I have a guy building me some custom fiberglass pieces as we speak.
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11-10-2015, 06:25 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: cashiers,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Researching the right car now.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn
If you are considering a Backdraft, then the engine under the hood is not as critical as if you are trying to fool people with your replica. So build the engine that fits your budget and performance goals.
I really don't think a 385 series engine is the WTG at all in these cars. The video you saw online was the 588R we did, it was nowhere near as thrilling or enjoyable to drive as our higher power 427 Tall Deck options or supercharged varieties of Coyote engines.
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Cash...I watched some of your youtube videos, you have built a lot of bada$$ cobras. I saw one of them put nearly 800hp to the ground.
So tell me, in your opinion, what would your ultimate Cobra be?
I'm not looking for a car that is as original as possible, but I don't want a Coyote or anything modern looking under the hood.
I have no desire to track race the car. Maybe a run or two down the drag strip, just to see where the car is performance wise.
I do plan on a few road trips a year....this thing isn't going to be 5 years old with 2k miles on it...I plan to use it!
No small blocks.
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11-10-2015, 06:42 PM
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CC Member / Sponsor
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Provo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Daytona Coupe
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385 engines are heavy.
If handling means anything to you then,
I would be inclined to go with an all aluminum small block.
Small blocks also have a lower center of gravity...
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11-10-2015, 06:53 PM
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Senior CC Premier Member
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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Sort of like a milkshake I guess....
If you want a good real old-school one or just want something from McDonalds. Either way, you have a milkshake that works for you!
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11-10-2015, 06:56 PM
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Backdraft Racing Dealer
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tnc110
Cash...I watched some of your youtube videos, you have built a lot of bada$$ cobras. I saw one of them put nearly 800hp to the ground.
So tell me, in your opinion, what would your ultimate Cobra be?
I'm not looking for a car that is as original as possible, but I don't want a Coyote or anything modern looking under the hood.
I have no desire to track race the car. Maybe a run or two down the drag strip, just to see where the car is performance wise.
I do plan on a few road trips a year....this thing isn't going to be 5 years old with 2k miles on it...I plan to use it!
No small blocks.
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Always building the next ultimate one... If I want all around from a price, performance, and plan to keep it long term (and the costs associated with maintaining it properly) it's hands down 427 SBF. With one of the newer FI systems it's on...
If I plan to keep it a few years and want sports car performance and nearly no maintence it's straight up Coyote. If I want to only use half the pedal and scare the **** out of myself then put an SC on it.
If I want to make maintenance a headache, kill the balance of the car, put a tiny air cleaner on to clear the hood and choke the engine, and generate a ton of unnecessary heat then a 385 series might be it.
I did build a car with an all aluminum FE for a buddy of mine and it is an excellent sounding and driving car. It simply is a stretch for the $ vs results and he really does not ring it out too hard for he fears ever having to replace it.
I can find something in each one I really like, it's just a matter of which does the most and for how much.
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11-10-2015, 07:01 PM
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Senior CC Premier Member
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Join Date: Nov 2004
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
But he adjusted the gas fireplace quite nicely. It's very snuggly now. I can sit there all warm and toasty, watch Graveyard Cars on the big screen, and glance at my Cobra through the open doorway. Then I call the dog up on the couch, put my feet up, and drift off to slumberland.
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Nice and warm watching Evan's alter-ego from the Chrysler world.
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11-10-2015, 07:07 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Memphis,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF#1867 , KC427
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn
Always building the next ultimate one... If I want all around from a price, performance, and plan to keep it long term (and the costs associated with maintaining it properly) it's hands down 427 SBF. With one of the newer FI systems it's on...
If I plan to keep it a few years and want sports car performance and nearly no maintence it's straight up Coyote. If I want to only use half the pedal and scare the **** out of myself then put an SC on it.
If I want to make maintenance a headache, kill the balance of the car, put a tiny air cleaner on to clear the hood and choke the engine, and generate a ton of unnecessary heat then a 385 series might be it.
I did build a car with an all aluminum FE for a buddy of mine and it is an excellent sounding and driving car. It simply is a stretch for the $ vs results and he really does not ring it out too hard for he fears ever having to replace it.
I can find something in each one I really like, it's just a matter of which does the most and for how much.
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What EFI systems do you find yourself using on your stroked windsors? I don't think the self learning applications really live up to their expectations when it is a performance platform......it really looks like its a Holley or FAST market. I really like the look of the Holley system but it says their throttle body Terminator setup is limited to 600HP. I would think the it is hard to beat the cost of a throttle body EFI setup with the laptop programmable ECU's and a solid tune. Are you doing any in-line pump EFI or is everything in the tank and return style?
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11-10-2015, 07:25 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: cashiers,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Researching the right car now.
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Cash, are using an original BDR rear end with the super charged coyote?
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11-10-2015, 07:30 PM
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Senior CC Premier Member
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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Cashburn seems to know his way around the Coyotes!
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11-10-2015, 07:37 PM
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Backdraft Racing Dealer
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tnc110
Cash, are using an original BDR rear end with the super charged coyote?
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Diffsonline built rears with polished gears and 40% lock custom ramped etc. or should I say our LSD option. But we make a few other upgrades if we are going north of 650hp. Mostly to the mounting and suspension though.
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11-10-2015, 07:40 PM
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Backdraft Racing Dealer
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Join Date: Dec 2004
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace23
What EFI systems do you find yourself using on your stroked windsors? I don't think the self learning applications really live up to their expectations when it is a performance platform......it really looks like its a Holley or FAST market. I really like the look of the Holley system but it says their throttle body Terminator setup is limited to 600HP. I would think the it is hard to beat the cost of a throttle body EFI setup with the laptop programmable ECU's and a solid tune. Are you doing any in-line pump EFI or is everything in the tank and return style?
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There's a newer player in the market we are in beta with. Those others I would not use given the option....
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11-10-2015, 08:13 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Memphis,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF#1867 , KC427
Posts: 431
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn
There's a newer player in the market we are in beta with. Those others I would not use given the option....
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That is not what I expected to hear. Good luck with the beta and keep us posted. I figured the throttle body setup with a dyno tune would suffice.
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11-11-2015, 08:54 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Columbus,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 714
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I still am in favor of an all aluminium FE as that was the reason I bought mine when I did.
Phil
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11-11-2015, 11:53 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn
Always building the next ultimate one... If I want all around from a price, performance, and plan to keep it long term (and the costs associated with maintaining it properly) it's hands down 427 SBF. With one of the newer FI systems and twin turbos it's on...
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Fixed it for you, lol.
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11-12-2015, 08:53 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cashburn
There's a newer player in the market we are in beta with. Those others I would not use given the option....
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Ok, I give! What's a "beta" fuel injection?
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11-12-2015, 09:49 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jhv48
Ok, I give! What's a "beta" fuel injection?
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It's BFI spelled out.
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11-12-2015, 10:20 AM
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Backdraft Racing Dealer
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: North Haven,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Backdraft Racing
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