ford cobra with ccx-number

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by patrickt

What would possess someone with a fake Cobra to borrow the VIN number from another fake Cobra? And, frankly, one that isn't as nice to begin with?

Depends where it was originally titled, if a CCX xxxxxx was already in the system, then when the clerk asks "oh, is it one of these", the response generally is "yes, yes it is".

[Nedsel]

Any website that features a reproduction Cobra but claims it is a fully restored original from the 60's is a good website to avoid. As in, they are full of MERDE.

[Bernica]

Where are Shelby's attorneys when you need 'em?

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by 1985 CCX

Patrick, come on CCX is a nice car.... Might be because CCX makes exporting easier as they were mostly titled from 25+years ago.....

That is extremely risky behavior... and can easily cost someone their car.

[1985 CCX]

I agree, just saying its a plausible reason.

Ned is correct that the claim should be enough to avoid this car.

[Bernica]

I believe in the US, you get caught playing these games the car is seized and crushed. Maybe someone will correct me, but I know of one body shop guy that tried to cut a big one and was caught doctoring numbers on a Mustang.

The Sheriffs showed up one morning with a flatbed and a warrent and it was gone forever. Then he went to jail.

[patrickt]

...and forget "due," that fraud would be disclosed with just slight diligence.

[Bernica]

Interesting part of the story was the guy that owned the car claimed he knew nothing about it and just told the guy to fix it up and get as much as he could for it. One could doubt that, but he walked away. No car.

[peterpjb]

are there any other features exept the aluminium body for identifying this car as a kirkham?

[Bernica]

I would call Kirkham directly. They are good folks.

[John McMahon]

Originally Posted by 1985 CCX

CCX is indeed Contemporary
All their numbers started as CCX3-3XXX they may have used a CCX3-2XXX for the 289? Dunno......

Jeff,

The Contemporary 289FIA VIN numbers were:

CCX2-250x...they built 7 of them....'1' thru '7' I believe is the last digit...5 live in the US, 2 in the UK.

[Bernica]

Something seems rotten in Denmark (or Germany)...

[1985 CCX]

John

Thanks, good to see you are still around....

[John McMahon]

Originally Posted by 1985 CCX

John

Thanks, good to see you are still around....

Thanks Jeff, I try to poke my head in every now and again and see what's going on. I am without a toy at the moment, no time or money......

Continued success on your build(s) ....I watch and I am amazed at your attention to detail...Happy 2016!

JM

[lovehamr]

Just looked at the ad and wow! I can honestly say that I've never seen such a nice car with such a stupidly faked VIN. Certain little things do stand out which speak to the stupidity of the end builder; like the new style Ford racing VCs, the poor spark plug wire job and of course the silly VIN plate. But it's also a leaf spring car! And it looks like everything done by the roller manufacturer is very well done. I say it's a very nice Kirkham finished by a Delta Alpha.

Needless to say perhaps but $250k? BaaaaaaaaaaaaHaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!

They should just give the car to me so that I can do a better job on her!

[peterpjb]

yesterday i had a closer look at that car, i am no cobra expert but i am an classic car enthusiast for over 30 years, and i am working with craftsmanship all day long, so i have a look for the details

that car is really astonishing, a really perfect and impressing alubody on a true authentic look in everthing,
ist not a perfect new car like a superformance, shelby or kirkham, but a new build of a new/old part-collection with some well crafted details like the stainless steel fan-type exhaust pipe

the owner narrated me the following story:

he collected parts for that car over 15 years,
he imported the chassis with formerly coil springs 10 years ago from the us titled as a "ford" cobra 1968 with ccx55363 vin, then converted it to leaf springs for this car
the body is not a kirkham but built by an old coachbuilder from the uk who is dead meanwhile...
the leaf springs are reproductions used also in the original cars as a spare part,
girling brake system is original also the knock on wheel nuts and some other parts of the suspension...

dont know what truth and what poetry,
a real patchwork out of parts and history...

but the dilemma is:... i would like to have this car....

(for sure not with that price )

[ChiChris]

Buying it is up to you.

Just know it isn't an original or a continuation Shelby Cobra.

[1ntCobra]

Originally Posted by peterpjb

yesterday i had a closer look at that car, i am no cobra expert but i am an classic car enthusiast for over 30 years, and i am working with craftsmanship all day long, so i have a look for the details

that car is really astonishing, a really perfect and impressing alubody on a true authentic look in everthing,
ist not a perfect new car like a superformance, shelby or kirkham, but a new build of a new/old part-collection with some well crafted details like the stainless steel fan-type exhaust pipe

the owner narrated me the following story:

he collected parts for that car over 15 years,
he imported the chassis with formerly coil springs 10 years ago from the us titled as a "ford" cobra 1968 with ccx55363 vin, then converted it to leaf springs for this car
the body is not a kirkham but built by an old coachbuilder from the uk who is dead meanwhile...
the leaf springs are reproductions used also in the original cars as a spare part,
girling brake system is original also the knock on wheel nuts and some other parts of the suspension...

dont know what truth and what poetry,
a real patchwork out of parts and history...

but the dilemma is:... i would like to have this car....

(for sure not with that price )

Considering the made up story you presented from the "seller", I would not trust the story you just got from the "owner" either.

I would think that converting the car from coil spring to leaf spring would not be trivial and rather costly. That sounds unlikely to do.

And let's just imagine for a moment that the latest story you heard is actually true. The car is a mixture of parts of some unverifiable origin (like some unnamed dead coach builder). What would you pay for it then? I would suggest paying less than what you could get a similarly optioned Kirkham for. With a Kirkham you know you have a quality car that is put together properly.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by ChiChris

Buying it is up to you.

Just know it isn't an original or a continuation Shelby Cobra.

Or Kirkham or anything else for that matter. You could do MUCH better for the same price.

[Nedsel]

I would question the sanity of anyone who claims to have taken a coil-spring Cobra chassis and converted it to leaf springs. Not just for having attempted to do it, but for admitting it.