Club Cobra
Page 17 of 39 « First 7910111213141516 17 181920212223242527 Last »
Show 20 post(s) from this thread on one page

Club Cobra (http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/)
-   ALL COBRA TALK (http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/all-cobra-talk/)
-   -   Evan's (REAL1) Car On The Market (http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/all-cobra-talk/135700-evans-real1-car-market.html)

Bernica 03-04-2016 03:33 PM
Old saying..."the pioneers got the first arrows".;)

RodKnock 03-04-2016 03:34 PM
BTW, how do you define Evan's Price?

Prior to 2/28/2016 the price was $229,000.
After 2/28/2016, the price is $249,000.

RodKnock 03-04-2016 03:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica (Post 1382944)
Old saying..."the pioneers got the first arrows".;)
Speaking of old sayings, bulls make money, bears make money, pigs get slaughtered. ;)

Bernica 03-04-2016 03:40 PM
I think it's like anything else.
Price vs. demand. Then add marketing value (which he certainly did) and keep an eye on interest in the product. Like he said.."negotiable";)
Good product placement is the key, I guess.

Joe's Garage 03-04-2016 03:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ACademic (Post 1382940)
I'm sort of hoping that Evan gets his price. Then multiple things happen:

1. CSX 4### owners all rejoice as a new high bar is created. This is how markets work, right?
2. The Kirkham owners similarly rejoice for the same reasons. After all, they pretty much have the same car without the Shelby badges. Again, this is how markets work, correct?
3. Evan opens up a fresh bottle of 30 year malt, pours himself a glass, and then quietly tells everyone here to shove it up their a$$. :3DSMILE:
Of course the converse also holds true, if Evan doesn't sell (and it was on the market for awhile @ $229K), then -

1. No surprise to most CSX4### owners, they already knew Evan priced his car well over market value.
2. Kirkham owners could give a rat's ass, for less money they have a special 50th Anniversary CSX without the badges :)
3. Evan opens up a bottle of ripple, pours himself a drink in a paper cup, then screams at himself that everybody told him so and that his
head was in fact stuck up his ass :3DSMILE:

RodKnock 03-04-2016 04:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica (Post 1382947)
Good product placement is the key, I guess.
I don't think Evan even really has "good product placement." He isn't advertising it on CobraCountry, AFAIK, like one of local Bay Area Cobra Club members is doing with his gorgeous early Kirkham:

http://www.cobracountry.com/cobra4sa...b-1180x810.jpg

Now, Dave's Kirkham has a dry sump, which I personally think is just about one of the coolest things to install in a Cobra, outside of having a SOHC engine.

Screw the badge, which is meaningless to me, but a dry sump FE engine is AWESOME. ;)

Bernica 03-04-2016 05:27 PM
Now that's a nice car! And at 100k or so less than Evan's, you can afford lots of badges or that old bottle of malt!:LOL:**)

patrickt 03-04-2016 05:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica (Post 1382956)
you can afford lots of badges or that old bottle of malt!:LOL:**)
Like this?

http://www.inthe80s.com/food/images/...9060_thumb.jpg

razerwire 03-04-2016 08:30 PM
Would be interested to know how Dave was able to stop misting oil out of cap on fender of his Kikham at high speed and rpm. We tried to use same cap but could not stop the slight mist of oil. I think the cap is correct and looks way better that what I have. It may be that I have more back pressure because the tank has oberg filters on top of it. Probably not the right place to ask question but what the heck.

RodKnock 03-04-2016 09:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by razerwire (Post 1382966)
Would be interested to know how Dave was able to stop misting oil out of cap on fender of his Kikham at high speed and rpm. We tried to use same cap but could not stop the slight mist of oil. I think the cap is correct and looks way better that what I have. It may be that I have more back pressure because the tank has oberg filters on top of it. Probably not the right place to ask question but what the heck.
I'm not 100% sure, but we both used Stewart Hall of Hall Fabrication & Racing to build our cars. And what he did for the gas cap leakage issue was create/fabricate/install a 2nd cap that threaded underneath the exterior cap. Stewart may done the exact same thing with the dry sump tank's oil filter cap.

4pipes 03-04-2016 09:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by razerwire (Post 1382966)
Would be interested to know how Dave was able to stop misting oil out of cap on fender of his Kikham at high speed and rpm. We tried to use same cap but could not stop the slight mist of oil. I think the cap is correct and looks way better that what I have. It may be that I have more back pressure because the tank has oberg filters on top of it. Probably not the right place to ask question but what the heck.
I used to have oil misting behind the cap also. Installed a Peterson remote breather can and have two large hoses from the tank to the breather can. That provides a low resistance path to the atmosphere instead of forcing flow out the cap.

razerwire 03-04-2016 09:36 PM
Thank you for answers.

Blue66 03-05-2016 06:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock (Post 1382951)
I don't think Evan even really has "good product placement." He isn't advertising it on CobraCountry, AFAIK, like one of local Bay Area Cobra Club members is doing with his gorgeous early Kirkham:

http://www.cobracountry.com/cobra4sa...b-1180x810.jpg

Now, Dave's Kirkham has a dry sump, which I personally think is just about one of the coolest things to install in a Cobra, outside of having a SOHC engine.

Screw the badge, which is meaningless to me, but a dry sump FE engine is AWESOME. ;)
2 completely different cars . Again it depends what guys are looking for. As far as advertising it I sell a lot buy word of mouth. The old CSX badge was a #1 factor buying my car. Why ??? Because we have had Shelby's since 1970.. See ??? Just opinions.:D

Blue66 03-05-2016 06:41 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe's Garage (Post 1382950)
Of course the converse also holds true, if Evan doesn't sell (and it was on the market for awhile @ $229K), then -

1. No surprise to most CSX4### owners, they already knew Evan priced his car well over market value.
2. Kirkham owners could give a rat's ass, for less money they have a special 50th Anniversary CSX without the badges :)
:
#1.... How do you think the Cobra market started to go crazy in 1976 ????? I could have doubled my cars price in 5 months ! As cars sold for more and more guys jumped on the band wagon. They never went back .. They created the "market value" so to speak. Evans car ?? As the expression goes there is an ass for every seat:3DSMILE:

#2.. Opinions ??? Some want em some don't.

Go Evan !!!¡ set a new price for "market value" !!:eek::)

NewYorkGuy 03-05-2016 07:14 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue66 (Post 1382989)
2 completely different cars . Again it depends what guys are looking for. As far as advertising it I sell a lot buy word of mouth. The old CSX badge was a #1 factor buying my car. Why ??? Because we have had Shelby's since 1970.. See ??? Just opinions.:D
Sir,
Just curious but what was Shelby s reputation in the 60s and 70s. Was he a superstar Car giant? Were buyers leaving deposits for Cobras?
The current car generation crowd knows Shelby as a slippery, old timer pitch guy.
It s also an unfair comparison between a car guy who grew up in the 60s to a present car guy buying nostaglia.

Blue66 03-05-2016 07:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy (Post 1382993)
Sir,
Just curious but what was Shelby s reputation in the 60s and 70s. Was he a superstar Car giant? Were buyers leaving deposits for Cobras?
The current car generation crowd knows Shelby as a slippery, old timer pitch guy.
It s also an unfair comparison between a car guy who grew up in the 60s to a present car guy buying nostaglia.
Wow ....Sir. ???:LOL:

60s good ol boy tryin to make. $$$ Mid 70s kind stayed out of the limelight... Don't think guys were leaving deposits for Cobra's. Lots were left over... That was BIG $$$$$ at that time.
.... Difference between back then an now ???? Hell ya.. Most of us worked on our own cars. Modified them an had fun. It was just a car back then.. Today ????? Just look in here :JEKYLHYDE:cool:
.... I firmly believe "SAAC" kept the "name" going ... Lots of earlier clubs helped to.

.... Bottom like buy what ya want an drove the hell out of it... Get tired of it ???.? SELL it !! YES as ya get older u do change. . How many guys in here have had a car for 42 YEARS ???:eek:

Now who in here knows about a 65 Griffith 200 or 400 for sale ?????.

Joe's Garage 03-05-2016 08:19 AM
This is Evan's problem ...

http://assets.hemmings.com/uimage/53...70-0.jpg?rev=1

CSX4206 $249,000


http://static1.squarespace.com/stati...7/?format=750w

CSX4227 $160,000

... it's not rocket science boys.

RodKnock 03-05-2016 11:04 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue66 (Post 1382989)
2 completely different cars . Again it depends what guys are looking for. See ??? Just opinions.:D
Yes, one is blue and one is black. :rolleyes:

The fact that they're both alloy-bodied Cobras, both high-end builds, maintained to high standards by their owners, makes them almost EXACTLY the same in my mind.

A Shelby is a Kirkham with Shelby badge. That's a fact. No opinion. ;)

RodKnock 03-05-2016 11:09 AM
And the fact, not opinion, that the original Shelby organization exists essentially in name only since the majority of the Shelby company was purchased by another company and then taken public makes the connection to the original Shelby American tenuous at best. That's my opinion.

Bernica 03-05-2016 11:09 AM
Yes, both are great alloy cars and quite similar except for the makeup and lipstick! And which one would you actually feel good about hopping in and driving the hell out of it as it was intended?:confused:


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:39 AM.
Page 17 of 39 « First 7910111213141516 17 181920212223242527 Last »
Show 20 post(s) from this thread on one page

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: