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03-12-2016, 02:15 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by peterpjb
i think it has a logic to rise the price of the offer when all the prices in the surrounding are rising...
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You mean a rising tide lifts all boats.
Do you mean Vern's CSX4227 which sold and was asking $160,000 obo? I don't think that price would increase the value of Evan's. "All the prices in the surrounding are rising"? Are there comparables substantiating a rising price?
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03-12-2016, 02:36 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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You mean the car that needed a 20K paint job?
His price was always 249K. He had it in a few other places for that price long before anything surfaced here. I never saw anything different.
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03-12-2016, 03:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twobjshelbys
You mean the car that needed a 20K paint job?
His price was always 249K. He had it in a few other places for that price long before anything surfaced here. I never saw anything different.
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Yes, I mean the beautiful brushed alloy CSX4227. And while you can certainly spend $20,000 to paint a Cobra, there are plenty of excellent paint shops that will paint it for far far less. There's an excellent paint shop in Yuba City, CA that paints Cobras for under $10,000 including my neighbor's FFR, which had significant fiberglass repairs to be done.
Personally I prefer unpainted aluminum. Why hide the beautiful body, IMO.
The original price in Evan's Hemmings ad was $229,000. That fact is indisputable. Plenty of members here saw it. And I can't imagine Evan, a man of exacting standards, making an error in the ad of his pride and joy. Sorry, not buying what your selling.
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03-12-2016, 03:11 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Evan has two other ads that I'm aware of via Google search where the price of his car is $239,000.
SAAC Forum:
Offering CSX 4206 for sale
Ford GT Forum:
CSX 4206 offered for sale
Whether it's $229,000, $239,000 or $249,000, it hasn't sold in 3+ months. That would lead most people to conclude that the car is over-priced.
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03-12-2016, 03:26 PM
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This is why threads like this last for 28 pages ... and counting.
The amusement of watching the uninformed spew forth garbage just to see their dumb ass corrected
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03-12-2016, 04:30 PM
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hilarious. A guy with a Kirkham who Says he does not care about cxs badges or Evan's car, but keeps on posting, over 200+++ Pets are great company
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03-12-2016, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy
hilarious. A guy with a Kirkham who Says he does not care about cxs badges or Evan's car, but keeps on posting, over 200+++ �������� Pets are great company
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Must have been a difficult NLOA (Nissan Leaf Owners Association) board meeting today? Was there a breakdown in Roberts Rules of Order when the discussion turned to battery life and technology?
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03-12-2016, 07:08 PM
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NYG, your sense of humor is a little twisted, this is what hilarious looks like ...
Regarding a potential buyer -
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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy
I'm being the voice of reason and saving HIM from future headaches and heartaches ...
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No hands-on experience with one, never owned one
Regarding Kirkhams -
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Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy
... Pet friendly? ...
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If you had any concept of what a cobra is, you would know all cobras are pet friendly ...
just like fracking is gopher friendly
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03-12-2016, 07:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NewYorkGuy
hilarious. A guy with a Kirkham who Says he does not care about cxs badges or Evan's car, but keeps on posting, over 200+++ �������� Pets are great company
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Get up, sit up straight, eat a good breakfast and go drive a Cobra. Please record and post your experience here.
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03-12-2016, 08:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
Get up, sit up straight...
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For a minute I thought you were going to write the lyrics to Bob Marley's "Get Up, Stand Up."
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03-12-2016, 08:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
For a minute I thought you were going to write the lyrics to Bob Marley's "Get Up, Stand Up."
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My own remix...
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03-12-2016, 08:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
For a minute I thought you were going to write the lyrics to Bob Marley's "Get Up, Stand Up."
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I thought Bernica was heading the direction of "A Day In The Life":
"Woke up, fell out of bed, Dragged a comb across my head..."
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03-12-2016, 08:32 PM
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Jeeez! Get a record player or something and learn!
Rodnock, you think I would do that? Beatles?
BTW, for NYG..just look at my signature tag below.
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03-12-2016, 11:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
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Whether it's $229,000, $239,000 or $249,000, it hasn't sold in 3+ months. That would lead most people to conclude that the car is over-priced.
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an offer beeing unsold for 3+ month isnt that unusual for classic or special cars, there a many cars beeing offered much much longer
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03-12-2016, 11:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peterpjb
an offer beeing unsold for 3+ month isnt that unusual for classic or special cars, there a many cars beeing offered much much longer
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Totally disagree.
Not sure what market you're watching, but IMO it's very unusual to have classic or special cars sit unsold. Go to Club Cobra or GT40s.com. Cobras, GT40's are sold relatively quickly, but the KEY is they can't be priced $100,000 +/- over the market. I also watch both the new and used Porsche 911 market and there are GT3's, GTRS's, CGT's, etc. being sold quickly for hundreds of thousands of dollars depending on the model. Special and desirable cars sell fast if priced around market value.
Evan's Cobra sitting for 3+ months speaks loud and clear to me. Either it's over priced and/or he needs to advertise it to a wider audience. Alternatively, put a high reserve on it and throw it on eBay or BaT and see what the high bid is. Do it 2-3 times. That'll give him a decent estimate of what's it's worth.
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03-13-2016, 08:16 AM
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look at cobra-country, there are the most offers from nov-dez unsold...
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03-13-2016, 11:17 AM
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peterpjb, let's put your google prowess to work, find 1 documented sale of a CSX series 4000/6000 car that has sold for $200K or more. Many have tried, all have failed.
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03-13-2016, 01:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Joe's Garage
peterpjb, let's put your google prowess to work, find 1 documented sale of a CSX series 4000/6000 car that has sold for $200K or more. Many have tried, all have failed.
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i didnt claim the oppsite
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03-13-2016, 02:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peterpjb
look at cobra-country, there are the most offers from nov-dez unsold...
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Your words were "classic and special cars." The Cobras that are unsold, which were listed pre-12/31/15 are as follows:
Fiberglass CSX's - 3 (two are FIA's and one is priced at $162,500, with a "different" color scheme)
SPF - 1
BDR - 2
ERA -1
So, here's my point. With all due respect to the owners of these unsold Cobras, they're not ALLOY and they're not as highly detailed as Evan's CSX. And the $162,500 for the fiberglass 427 CSX (in likely a difficult to sell color scheme) is simply ridiculous, especially considering that Mr. Estes CSX4227 (ALLOY) sold for $160,000 or best offer.
Evan's CSX and Dave Brown's KMP are "one of the best of the breed" type ALLOY Cobras. They're not fiberglass and they're not the more common BDR's and SPF's. Evan's CSX and Dave's KMP are "special" cars. Evan's CSX is priced roughly $100,000 over the last ALLOY CSX sale. So, the fact that "one of the best of the breed" and "special" IMO, is still for sale 3+ months later tells me something. OVERPRICED.
The facts are the facts. If you think the seven (7) unsold pre-12/31/15 fiberglass Cobras are "special" in the Cobra world, then feel free to disagree.
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03-13-2016, 03:08 PM
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I used to know where there was a white FAIM commemorative FIA roller stashed, still in plastic wrap and stashed in a shop. I believe it was alloy too. The owner wanted $150K for the roller. No takers and shop owner was not getting paid to store it or complete it. Eventually, I believe the bank came and took it.
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