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03-10-2016, 09:51 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: AC Cars Limited, 302 EFI
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Any 427 FE owners regret not going for a small block stroker?
Just wondering. With so many and not just S/B owners saying 331/347 is the default choice for a balanced car, if there are any 427 FE owners out there who actually agree that the smaller motor is the better route.
Somehow, I doubt it but interested in what the real-life feedback actually is.
Alternatively any S/B owners who if they were to do it all again, would build in the big boy.
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03-10-2016, 10:28 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Little Rock area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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It's definitely the better route if building an FIA and particularly if building a slab side 289. I can't imagine too many guys with a 427 S/C or Roadster with an FE, wishing they had gone SB. However, one or two will probably pop up.
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03-10-2016, 10:44 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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I actually wish I went electric. The gas mileage with the FE is terrible and the sidepipes are too loud.
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03-10-2016, 10:56 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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Agree with the above if it was an FIA or Slabside.
I actually went big block stroker. No regrets!  
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03-10-2016, 11:12 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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I don't think the engine choice matters anymore. All I care about is if it can limp you to a Taco Bell for a Quesalupa. 
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03-10-2016, 11:28 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
I don't think the engine choice matters anymore. All I care about is if it can limp you to a Taco Bell for a Quesalupa. 
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The engine choice won't matter, because you're going to keel over from a myocardial infarction. So, if you want to live mas, leave the Cobra at home and jog/run to get your Quesalupa, Quesarito or whatever. 
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03-10-2016, 11:59 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Well, in that case, I don't think there's anyone on the planet that would trade their FE in on a small block, unless their FE was broken, which is often the case. 
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03-10-2016, 01:51 PM
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Location: Melbourne,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Some polish thing... With some old engine
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I actually wish I went electric. The gas mileage with the FE is terrible and the sidepipes are too loud.
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What's it matter?
You don't drive the darn thing so fuel consumption and noise out the pipes are about even 
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03-10-2016, 02:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dimis
What's it matter?
You don't drive the darn thing so fuel consumption and noise out the pipes are about even 
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There is some electricity being used by the Battery Tender. And it does make a buzzing sound. 
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03-10-2016, 03:25 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: I have a mk2 FFR Electric
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I actually wish I went electric. The gas mileage with the FE is terrible and the sidepipes are too loud.
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Here...Here, I second the Electric Idea
Oh, and I actually took out an 1968 FE427 motor to do this, how crazy is that ?!
Jeff
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03-10-2016, 06:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff mccabe
Here...Here, I second the Electric Idea
Oh, and I actually took out an 1968 FL427 motor to do this, how crazy is that ?!
Jeff
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Now c'mon Jeff - spill the beans... and start a build thread! 
I want to know all about it!
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03-12-2016, 03:22 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeff mccabe
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Thanks man!
I got me a bit of reading to do.
Ps. As for Physics - I've got my thoughts.
Barry R is right: a short stroke should rev faster. BUT that's not to say Brent and KC are wrong. The extra fuel that a longer stroke sucks in could provide enough bang to make up the difference.
Problem with physics is that while it always works, it only always works when "all else is equal", and in practice changing the stroke can change other things too. Isolating the single one variable in this case is challenging. It's not as simple as just changing the strokes.
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03-10-2016, 12:22 PM
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Someone asked me one time how to easily tell the difference between an FE and a small block. I told him it was easy as the big block would be the one with the puddle of oil below it!
Larry
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03-10-2016, 12:34 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427" 351W
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LMH
Someone asked me one time how to easily tell the difference between an FE and a small block. I told him it was easy as the big block would be the one with the puddle of oil below it!
Larry
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That's funny, and the truth, put some synthetic into an FE and it becomes a sprinkler system.
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03-10-2016, 12:42 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance, Roush 402R and CSX 6029
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Personal preference...I like them both (although I am more of a Whopper guy)
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03-10-2016, 12:46 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JWilly
Personal preference...I like them both (although I am more of a Whopper guy)
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Whoppers are good. But if you find yourself at BK, because you ignored RodKnock's health advice, then you should reward yourself with the Yumbo. Even Rodknock can't resist one of those. 
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03-10-2016, 01:18 PM
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I think either the small block or big block will get you down to the local gourmet food trucks, where you can get a delicious sushirrito (sushi burrito). Yum!
And as you eat your sushirrito, listening to live music, you can sit and watch either the small block or big block Ford leak, because anyone who thinks small block Fords don't leak also, are kidding themselves.
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03-10-2016, 09:05 PM
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Engine Related
Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I think either the small block or big block will get you down to the local gourmet food trucks, where you can get a delicious sushirrito (sushi burrito). Yum!
And as you eat your sushirrito, listening to live music, you can sit and watch either the small block or big block Ford leak, because anyone who thinks small block Fords don't leak also, are kidding themselves.
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They leak if you're not careful putting them together . . . have had S/O 427's go out of shop, one was a full-alum build (block/heads/cast oil pan) and before it left it spent an hour on our dyno. No leaks. But, there are also after-market blocks that are Windsor-based and can swallow a bore/stroke for 460 cubes. And it looks like a 351W. THAT is something to keep in mind when considering your next build. 520hp on 87-octane, hyd roller cam & EFI. Turn the key & drive!
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03-10-2016, 01:34 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Former owner of Long Live the Bow tie Contemporary #102 427 Chevy .30 over Merlin heads 11to1, TBI injection
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