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03-18-2016, 04:58 AM
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Senile Club Cobra Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmustang
How much with Kidney Bean wheels and blackwalls
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Well you know the factory puts that Tru-Coat on and I can't do anything about it.....
Well, deduct about $40.00 for the whitewalls (Geez, I NEVER thought I would be selling cars with WHITEWALLS again...but seems about 50% of the 289s got shoved out of Shelby with his Goodyear whitewalls!) And the wheels are close to a wash price wise. Lets call it even.
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03-18-2016, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by mrmustang
How much with Kidney Bean wheels and blackwalls
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Bill, can you also ask him about the cost to change to black carpets and seats?
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03-18-2016, 10:53 AM
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Did folks back in the 60s look at the slabside as "a Miata?" corvette stingrays and Jag E Type 1 had longer hoods and aggressive looks. Did American buyers like the Slabside shape?
Looks like a chick car, then and now
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03-18-2016, 11:12 AM
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Well, NYG, you're not going to make many more friends here with a comment like that.
But to your point, the slabside is a bit too British for my taste. There seems to be a bit of a backlash recently with the 427 shape but to me, that voluptuous/muscular shape is the "be all, end all" with sports cars. I don't tire from it nor fault it in any way.
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03-18-2016, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by rodneym
Well, NYG, you're not going to make many more friends here with a comment like that.
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Consider the source. NYG owns a Nissan Leaf. On a scale of masculinity, the needle wouldn't move for owners of Nissan Leafs.
For me, the 427 represents the evolution of Shelby's work. The finished product. But throw some kidney bean wheels and performance tires on there, lower the stance and I'd own a slabside.
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03-18-2016, 11:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodneym
Well, NYG, you're not going to make many more friends here with a comment like that.
But to your point, the slabside is a bit too British for my taste. There seems to be a bit of a backlash recently with the 427 shape but to me, that voluptuous/muscular shape is the "be all, end all" with sports cars. I don't tire from it nor fault it in any way.
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in fact the cobra IS a british sports car (with an american engine ) and the 1953 tojeiro-design is the iconographic archetype of any sportscar
it is now as cool as 63 years ago,
for me the 2.0-design of the 2,6 ace rudspeed is the best,
unfortunately bigger wheels could not be mounted so the slabside wheelarches were invented, imho a great step back in the clearness and simlicity of the design,
all other design experiments for bigger and much bigger wheelarches mostly failed imho, respective the great differences between front and rear,
exception eg csx 2001 and some mild race versions
the 427 design solved that problem but turned the early elegance into a muscle-appearance
those who think the 427 is more elegant must see the early design is for chicks
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03-18-2016, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Bill, can you also ask him about the cost to change to black carpets and seats?
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I was thinking "Tan", maybe even ordering one in "Laguna Blue" with proper knock off wheels
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03-18-2016, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by peterpjb
in fact the cobra IS a british sports car (with an american engine ) and the 1953 tojeiro-design is the iconographic archetype of any sportscar.
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WHOA! Slow down there. The Cobra is a British sportscar? Wow, I didn't know that. Geez, I learn something new everyday.
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03-18-2016, 12:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
WHOA! Slow down there. The Cobra is a British sportscar? Wow, I didn't know that. Geez, I learn something new everyday.
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The $hitty ones come from England. The really good ones come from New England.
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03-18-2016, 12:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmustang
I was thinking "Tan", maybe even ordering one in "Laguna Blue" with proper knock off wheels
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I really like Laguna Blue & Tan. The red/tan combo, not so much.
Rick's website shows a silver/black 289 slab coming to shore soon and the 1 pic of that car looked very nice.
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03-18-2016, 12:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
The $hitty ones come from England. The really good ones come from New England.
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Next you guys will be telling me that Shelby came from Texas and raised chickens.
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03-18-2016, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
... and raised chickens.
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... only with a fork.
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03-18-2016, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmustang
I was thinking "Tan", maybe even ordering one in "Laguna Blue" with proper knock off wheels
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My car is gonna be Princess Blue with black leather!
The Hailbrand Kidney Bean wheels are six pin drive and you still have the splines so you can swap out the pins for bolts and run the wires. Best of both worlds.................
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03-18-2016, 12:49 PM
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Princess Blue is the same color Shelby referred to as "Viking Blue", correct?
"Viking Blue" doesn't upset my masculine sensibilities.
DD
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03-18-2016, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark IV
My car is gonna be Princess Blue with black leather!
The Hailbrand Kidney Bean wheels are six pin drive and you still have the splines so you can swap out the pins for bolts and run the wires. Best of both worlds.................
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What about an FYI style rollbar like Bill Collins car?
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03-18-2016, 02:23 PM
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Yup. Can do.
We can "Mix 'n Match" options between the street roadster and the FIA/USRRC models. FIA hood scoop? No problem. Race dash? Sure!
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03-18-2016, 02:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
WHOA! Slow down there. The Cobra is a British sportscar? Wow, I didn't know that. Geez, I learn something new everyday.
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the base is a genuine british sport car and in europe the cobra was always an " ac" cobra powered by ford, and thats what it is....
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03-18-2016, 02:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dangerous Doug
Princess Blue is the same color Shelby referred to as "Viking Blue", correct?
"Viking Blue" doesn't upset my masculine sensibilities.
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Actually they are slightly different. Princess Blue was the color AC had in their color palette. "Viking Blue" became a color when Shelby had the colors switched to Ford US colors.
And I am comfortable enough in my manliness to drive "Princess Blue".......
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03-18-2016, 02:36 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by peterpjb
the base is a genuine british sport car and in europe the cobra was always an " ac" cobra powered by ford, and thats what it is....
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Maybe you could point me to a book where I could learn more about the history of the Cobra.
BTW, did you know my Kirkham is listed in a book?
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03-18-2016, 02:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark IV
Actually they are slightly different. Princess Blue was the color AC had in their color palette. "Viking Blue" became a color when Shelby had the colors switched to Ford US colors.
And I am comfortable enough in my manliness to drive "Princess Blue".......
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Looks like a 1960's version of the Miata to me.
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