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07-08-2016, 08:27 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Tempe,AZ-High Point,NC,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #684, 482FE, Mike Mccluskey build
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Originally Posted by FUNFER2
Hopefully, we can trust their own flow numbers.
Has Jay done any flow benching with the top 5 or so heads ?
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That's why Barry did his testing at Kenetic. Unbiased. Only thing that will effect the numbers is weather. They are all tested on a super flo.
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07-08-2016, 08:31 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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Still impressive numbers for sure! Just more $$$ for that porting!
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07-08-2016, 09:28 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham #684, 482FE, Mike Mccluskey build
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The BBM head claims it can use 3-5 degrees less timing than a stock ED head. Which is nice with crappy fuel.
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07-08-2016, 10:24 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Some polish thing... With some old engine
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Ported numbers for all three. Pond, bbm and Barry's are around the 350 mark.
All reports suggest any of the options above will work equally well.
I'd opt for the one that gave you the best price.
The only ones to pass on would be the blue thunders, and that's only bc the have different exhaust port heights which will mess with your headers, else the BTs put out the highest flow numbers iirc.
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07-09-2016, 05:39 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance, Survival Motorsports aluminum FE 482
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Survival Heads
I have Survival heads un-ported and got 550 Hp with a hydraulic roller cam.
It not exactly mild but it's not over the top either.
I disagree that Survival heads (Barry's heads). Are for high HP. He designed them to get numbers like mine and more without porting to keep the cost down.
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07-09-2016, 09:15 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
I'm used to driving a 1,350 lb. sprint car with 800-900 HP, dirt track with 25 other drivers around me, racing from 100 mph to 140 mph, turn left, side ways into four corners, and fishtailing all the way, so I can handle a 600 HP (+) 2,450 lb Cobra.
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That sounds like crazy fun! After driving something like that, will you be content with 600 fwhp?
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07-09-2016, 09:27 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
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lol, yes. Although, driving and getting on the motor in a Cobra is so fun. Light weight, sitting low and the beautiful noise of the side pipes gives me a smile every time. So not quite as exciting, but still a ^hit load of fun.
That's why I can't have a purrrrring kitten in the Cobra.
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07-09-2016, 06:01 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Allen,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Werk77 289FIA
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Originally Posted by Ace23
We are all driving fake Cobras so who cares about resale value.
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We ALL do, unless you spent somebody else's dough.
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Scratch build 289 FIA see the Scratch builder forum on CC - sold
DRB GT40 MK1 red #49- sold
FF5 Mk4 #7733 302/T5/IRS - dark blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #7812 427/TKO/IRS - Guardsman Blue - sold
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07-09-2016, 06:13 PM
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I just got this a couple weeks ago (501). Planning to build "Ollie the Dragon" - sure the intake goes and will be replaced with Weber's 48IDA.
That will be fun!!
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Scratch build 289 FIA see the Scratch builder forum on CC - sold
DRB GT40 MK1 red #49- sold
FF5 Mk4 #7733 302/T5/IRS - dark blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #7812 427/TKO/IRS - Guardsman Blue - sold
FF5 MK4 #8414 501/TKO600/48IDA Ollie the Dragon #91 - sold
FF5 Daytona Coupe 347/TKO/IRS Homage CSX2299 Viking Blue - sold
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07-09-2016, 06:41 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Pete
I just got this a couple weeks ago (501). Planning to build "Ollie the Dragon" - sure the intake goes and will be replaced with Weber's 48IDA.
That will be fun!!
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Do tell. Whatsit?
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07-09-2016, 08:00 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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Quote:
Originally Posted by G-Pete
I just got this a couple weeks ago (501). Planning to build "Ollie the Dragon" - sure the intake goes and will be replaced with Weber's 48IDA.
That will be fun!!
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Nice piece! Any info on what you did to it?
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07-10-2016, 07:34 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
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Quote:
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Do tell. Whatsit?
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You won't like it - CSX3009, the Essex Wire Cobra. It's painted a very, very extreme light shade of beige (white).
All kidding aside, it should be a nice build though.
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07-10-2016, 03:54 PM
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"Out of the box" is great, but even some hand porting can add quite a bit of power. CNC porting is awesome, can bring a lot of power,..... but expensive.
Brent, what do you recommend for best bang of our buck ?
Do you have any bench flow number results between the two and costs ?
What other massaging techniques , mods, etc should be performed ?
Like I said, you can spend a butt load on heads, to get maximum HP, TQ, so what should I have done and not break the bank for things/parts, that won't make a big deal ?
Especially,...what needs to be done to the FE heads ???
Maybe I should start a new thread about heads ?
Yes,....no ?
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07-10-2016, 04:07 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance, Survival Motorsports aluminum FE 482
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I have not read the whole thread so excuse me if I am off base. Be careful when you are dialing up the hp. It can be fun to have but there is drivability to consider. How will it run at 1500 rpm when you are trying to go 25 mph. Things like that come up a lot for me driving around. Huge cams do not like that. You end up doing 2500-3000 rpm to keep it from bucking. It's not a sprint car. If you feel the need for 6-700 hp you might consider building it for nitrous.
To the OP have you driven a cobra?
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07-10-2016, 04:29 PM
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Yes Bill, I have a Cobra.
Please read more of my thread, of what I want, need and can handle.
600 HP & TQ on the street is fine, depending on the cam specs and compression. Etc...
I'm not building a drag only car. .
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07-10-2016, 05:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
Yes Bill, I have a Cobra.
Please read more of my thread, of what I want, need and can handle.
600 HP & TQ on the street is fine, depending on the cam specs and compression. Etc...
I'm not building a drag only car. .
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You are not using 600 hp around a turn. When you felt the need to melt the tires you could hit the button.
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07-10-2016, 05:28 PM
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Ain't gonna happin.
How much does your 482 produce ?
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07-10-2016, 06:27 PM
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550 something.
I believe as you go above that it gets dicey.
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07-10-2016, 06:38 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Detroit Bill
550 something.
I believe as you go above that it gets dicey.
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Same here. About the same, maybe a little less, after new carb and some other tweaking. Wouldn't go more. According to Brent who has seen my build sheet it has plenty of room for more with cam change. But it's plenty IMHO!
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07-10-2016, 06:55 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Forgetting the engine, for a moment, if it ever is built... what brand of Cobra will it be going in to?
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