FE ONLY OR 514ci. CRATE IN YOUR,....COBRA ?

[Bernica]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

I agree, but for bragging rights and for me having a "virgin", new....427 side oiler in my Cobra is great. Would I do it, hum....... realisticly, probably not, unless it was a carb to oil pan NOS engine.

Fun to imagine though.

If HP didn't matter etc.......Would you have the NOS, or rather a new modern,....side oiler ?

I think I would have the carb-to-pan NOS 425hp. That's plenty and it was underrated.

[FUNFER2]

That would make a great barn find.

Maybe I'll pray to the Side Oiler God.

[Dimis]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

If HP didn't matter etc.......Would you have the NOS, or rather a new modern,....side oiler ?

In this instance, my understanding is the price matters more than the HP.
...and seat of the pants 500hp vs 550hp in a cobra is not distinguishable by me at least.

Further given the choice, I'd go a NEW modern block (unless I needed a date code for some specific reason). NOS just ain't, once you build it.

Question is though, can you get a new block built for the same price you can negotiate this NOS build?

Ps. Nice find by the way

Best of luck either way.

[Ace23]

Or you could just have Brent build you the below motor but change the heads to the Kasse P51 so that the motor could fit in your car.
B2 Motorsports 529ci Engine Build - Muscle Builder - Modified Mustangs & Fords Magazine

Your new tag choices could be OTOFGAS or FEEATER but I guarantee you would probably be at your local grocery looking for adult diapers to invest in. I rode in my friends SPF Sunday with 600HP and 600TQ and that thing is fast.....he has fresh Avons and coming off those spirited runs it makes me think 700TQ and 750HP would be downright nasty.

[FUNFER2]

Man, what a motor.
Man, what a price.

Brent really knows how to build'em.

[FUNFER2]

Originally Posted by cycleguy55

Here's one example from Brent's site ( Lykins Motorsports, LLC ): 445 ci FE, 525 hp @ 5500, 588 lb-ft @ 4200. 4.080 x 4.250, Scat 9000 series crankshaft, Scat I-beam rods, Racetec pistons, 10:1. Comp Cams custom hydraulic roller cam, 235/241 @ .050", 110 LSA, .610" lift. Survival Motorsports as cast cylinder heads, Performer RPM intake, Quick Fuel HR-750 carb. Stuska dyno.

Above is 4.080" bore vs 4.060", and stroke is 4.250" vs 4.375". So, slightly smaller bore and 1/8" longer stroke, making it slightly bigger at 453 CID vs 445 CID. All things being equal, it should produce similar HP and torque.

Camshaft selection will be important, and I'd recommend taking Brent's advice on that.

Is there a dyno sheet on this one ?

[Ace23]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

Man, what a motor.
Man, what a price.

Brent really knows how to build'em.

My assumption would be that Brent could build you a stroker 385 with a different cylinder head setup at the price point or a lower price point than one of the stroker FE combos. It may not be what you want so I am just referring to actual price point for a 385 vs FE build.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

Is there a dyno sheet on this one ?

That 445 & 453 both probably feel pretty much like mine. My 447 has a little shorter stroke, slightly fatter bore, a few tenths more compression and a few degrees more duration, but a little less lift, and little more lobe separation. Unless he sent something to you that was broken, which ain't gonna happen, you would be quite pleased with either. I think it's now officially time for you to write a check to somebody, otherwise they're likely to assess you as being more of an irritant than your business is worth.

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

Is there a dyno sheet on this one ?

They all have flat torque curves and the HP is generally linear, preferably in an upward direction.

[FUNFER2]

" I think it's now officially time for you to write a check to somebody, otherwise they're likely to assess you as being more of an irritant than your business is worth."

I really hope you're kidding, otherwise there's no need for you to respond further. Look, I don't have the money that you must have to purchase any engine, so I can't and wont, just pick any motor that's for sale or have a engine builder custom build me a engine, like you do.

I research everything, and there's nothing wrong with that. If you or anyone disagrees with my methods or learning, what's out there and best bang for my buck, then you don't have to follow me along with this discussion and engine build/buy. Unless I'm wrong, isn't this a discussion forum to ask other members their thoughts and ideas pertaining to our Cobra's, engines, drive train etc,...??? That's exactly ,....what I'm doing. If you or engine builders don't like me or anyone else asking in depth, with many questions, regarding engine choices, and you don't like it, then tough,...I get off my back.

If you don't have anything positive to add to this thread, then stay off.

I really hope,...that newcomers don't see your negativity here and decide to go elsewhere. Except for a few members like you, Club Cobra is a wonderful website !

Go to a different "discussion" forum and complain all you want, just not here on Club Cobra.

[FUNFER2]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

They all have flat torque curves and the HP is generally linear, preferably in an upward direction.

That's great bud. For mainly street driven cars, with some added track fun once in a while, I really like the low torque curves to be down low.

[Bernica]

FUNFER2, this might be a cost effective solution at least for now. Don't know anything about the motor other than what is posted in the classified ad.

PhotoPost Classifieds - FORD 427 FE Side Oiler Complete Engine, Rebuilt Medium Riser Tunnel Wedge - Powered by PhotoPost Classifieds

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

Go to a different "discussion" forum and complain all you want, just not here on Club Cobra.

I'll 2nd that motion. All in favor say "Aye."

And take that scruffy dog with you.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

I'll 2nd that motion. All in favor say "Aye."

And take that scruffy dog with you.

"... and your little dog, too." Jeez, just trying to help the guy.

[FUNFER2]

That was help ?

Anyway, I have been speaking with the owner Dave (great guy) about that motor. It's not exactly what I want, but close and he even came down on price a little.

A engine builder said to replace the rods. (cam and slugs of course)
But, there's more money

Here's some info, pics and a video link. Let me know what you guys think.

EMAIL-

MY EMAL TO HIM-

I've been looking at a lot of different ad's. A friend sent me your updated ad on CC.

That friend has the same year Cobra I do, and he has the tunnel wedge on his 427 side oiler with no hood interference.
So it must be lower than the Edelbrock Air Gap that I had on my 428.
It's a great engine my friend & wish I could buy it. Perfect !.

Kevin

HIS REPLY-

This engine is closer to 500 HP with the roller cam and tunnel wedge intake with the 710 cfm Holley's. I changed the valve covers and spark plug wires to give the engine a "prettier" look.

Here is a link to the engine running on the test stand a couple of months ago: [ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEX_wW9ygrA[/ame]

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEX_wW9ygrA[/ame]

Dave

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PhotoPost Classifieds - 428 shortblock ready to go, 427 C/O shortblock - Powered by PhotoPost Classifieds

[FUNFER2]

Here's another ad from here on CC-

PhotoPost Classifieds - 428 shortblock ready to go, 427 C/O shortblock - Powered by PhotoPost Classifieds

[RodKnock]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

That was help ?

We've all been saying the same thing for years about Patrick.

[FUNFER2]

Originally Posted by RodKnock

We've all been saying the same thing for years about Patrick.

Being here in Nebraska (ya know, middle of the USA)
But I have a HUGE,...corn cob, ready to shove up his.......

[FUNFER2]

Since Patrick is rich enough that he can buy engines all the time if he's not a happy camper, maybe he can buy this one for me.

Way,...out of my price range, but cool !

427 Pond Side Oiler Engine 620HP Keith Craft Racing Cstm Build Stroked 482 C I | eBay

[Grubby]

That is a pretty good deal. You couldn't build it for that today.

And - he might take less.

John