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Old 06-14-2017, 08:59 AM
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I'll have to check. Like you said, It's all the little stuff that add up.

There's two things that can also add up.

I'll have to sell or trade my new FE flywheel, steel bellhousing and clutch for a 385 series.
I wonder if I could use the clutch ?

If the 460 is taller than the FE, I'll have to make a different hood scoop, which means repainting the hood. I'm a body man so that's not a big deal, except mixing new white pearl stripes, but it means more work especilly making a new scoop, and some,...cost.

I'd just have to feel, it'll be worth it at the end.
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Old 06-14-2017, 10:37 AM
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I'll have to check. Like you said, It's all the little stuff that add up.

There's two things that can also add up.

I'll have to sell or trade my new FE flywheel, steel bellhousing and clutch for a 385 series.
I wonder if I could use the clutch ?

If the 460 is taller than the FE, I'll have to make a different hood scoop, which means repainting the hood. I'm a body man so that's not a big deal, except mixing new white pearl stripes, but it means more work especilly making a new scoop, and some,...cost.

I'd just have to feel, it'll be worth it at the end.
Go ahead if you want to make a new hood scoop. OTOH, you can buy one, paint it to match the hood and rivet it on. There are other 'off the shelf' scoops, of course, but Shell Valley makes a couple that are 3.25" and 3.5" high: Cobra Replica Hood Scoop

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Old 06-16-2017, 12:05 PM
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Go ahead if you want to make a new hood scoop. OTOH, you can buy one, paint it to match the hood and rivet it on. There are other 'off the shelf' scoops, of course, but Shell Valley makes a couple that are 3.25" and 3.5" high: Cobra Replica Hood Scoop

That's cool.
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Couple of questions on valvetrain.

I've never used Scorpion Racing Products rockers. What do you think about them ?

I've also never used stainless rockers. What do you think about them vs aluminum ?
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Old 06-16-2017, 12:06 PM
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Couple of questions on valvetrain.

I've never used Scorpion Racing Products rockers. What do you think about them ?

I've also never used stainless rockers. What do you think about them vs aluminum ?
Anyone ?
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Old 06-16-2017, 12:19 PM
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Bare with me, I have several posts to grt back to, but I'd like your thoughts on this engine.

427 Center Oiler (bummer not a side) lol

If a guy replaced the heads, valve train, maybe the intake and cam, what performance numbers could be expected ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1963-Ford-42...-/272677201807
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Bare with me, I have several posts to grt back to, but I'd like your thoughts on this engine.

427 Center Oiler (bummer not a side) lol

If a guy replaced the heads, valve train, maybe the intake and cam, what performance numbers could be expected ?

1963 Ford 427 FE Engine - Q Code, 410 Factory HP. *Local Pick Up Only!* | eBay
Some examples from Brent's dyno page ( Lykins Motorsports, LLC ):

434 ci FE, 422 hp @ 5500, 467 lb-ft @ 4000. 4.165 x 3.980, factory CJ crankshaft, Scat H-beam rods, Diamond pistons, 9.8:1. Comp Cams hydraulic roller, 227/233 @ .050", .576" lift, 112 LSA. Factory CJ heads, Ferrea valves, valve job only. Factory CJ intake manifold. Holley 750 mechanical secondary carburetor. Stuska dyno.

428 ci FE, 533 hp @ 6400, 472 lb-ft @ 5400. 4.130 x 3.980, Scat cast crankshaft, Scat H-beam rods, Probe pistons, 11:1. Comp Cams solid roller, 248/254 @ .050", 110 LSA, 110 ICL, .676"/.680" lift, Keith Craft Stage 1 Edelbrock heads, Dove Tunnel Wedge, Road Demon 625 carburetors. DTS dyno.

427 ci FE, 510 hp @ 6100, 511 lb-ft @ 4200. 4.250 x 3.780, factory 391 crankshaft, BBC rod journals, Oliver rods, Race-Tec pistons, 11.5:1. Bullet solid flat tappet, 252/260 @ .050", 106 LSA, 104 ICL, Lawes Mayfield ported factory C3 LR heads, Lawes Mayfield ported factory LR 2x4 intake. Holley 600 carburetors. Stuska dyno.

427 ci FE, 476 hp @ 5700, 489 lb-ft @ 4400. 4.236 x 3.780, factory 427 $ crank, Scat H-beam rods, Diamond pistons, 10.7:1. Bullet solid flat tappet, 240/246 @ .050", 108 LSA, 103.5 ICL, .620"/.614" lift. Edelbrock heads (out of box with competition valve job), Blue Thunder 1x4 intake. Holley 750 carburetor. Stuska dyno.

435 ci FE, 529 hp @ 5800, 552 lb-ft @ 4250. 4.280 x 3.780, factory 427 $ crankshaft, Scat H-beam rods, Diamond pistons, 10:1. Bullet solid flat tappet camshaft, 243/249 @ .050", 108 LSA, .620" lift. CNC Pond cylinder heads, port matched Performer RPM intake. Holley 750 DP carb. Stuska dyno.

445 ci FE, 525 hp @ 5500, 588 lb-ft @ 4200. 4.080 x 4.250, Scat 9000 series crankshaft, Scat I-beam rods, Racetec pistons, 10:1. Comp Cams custom hydraulic roller cam, 235/241 @ .050", 110 LSA, .610" lift. Survival Motorsports as cast cylinder heads, Performer RPM intake, Quick Fuel HR-750 carb. Stuska dyno.
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Kevin, what you really need to do is just send blykins, or the Keith Craft people, or Barry R., a check for the highest amount that you can actually afford to spend. If he sends it back, then the game's over and you need to throw in the towel and forget it. If he keeps it and builds you something, then you'll be happy with it. But you've gotta quit farting around on all of this stuff and just write a check. If you can't make the numbers work, then you can't make it work.
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Kevin, what you really need to do is just send blykins, or the Keith Craft people, or Barry R., a check for the highest amount that you can actually afford to spend. If he sends it back, then the game's over and you need to throw in the towel and forget it. If he keeps it and builds you something, then you'll be happy with it. But you've gotta quit farting around on all of this stuff and just write a check. If you can't make the numbers work, then you can't make it work.
So, you don't beleive in research, planning and even chatting about "bench building" with others ? How sad.

Don't you ever talk with others hear about different engine specs, chassis, bodywork, paint types, racing etc, or are you so knowledgeable,....that you don't need us for help with your projects or just talking about Cobras, different ways of building and options ?

So, why are you a member ? (other than trying to ruin the fun of members chatting)

If I knew exactily what I want, why would I ask for this diccusion ?

Isn't this a discussion forum ? Hum,.....?

If you can't be helpful, don't say anything, we can get by without you.

For me, it's just being smart buddy.
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Couple of questions on valvetrain.

I've never used Scorpion Racing Products rockers. What do you think about them ?
Scorpions are cheap for a reason, just my 3 cents
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