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06-29-2016, 05:54 PM
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Makes sense I guess....I bet insuring that car cost a pretty penny every year, and if you got numerous members wanting the money you have no choice but to buy them out or sell the car and split the proceeds.
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06-29-2016, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
I'd argue that the Ferrari company and legacy is far more storied with a significant and successful racing history than Shelby American.
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Agreed; however, this is definitely a special car, the markets are bloated, and you never know what might happen when drunk azzholes get together. It will probably be a generation before the car is available again. When dollars are used for toilet paper, the sale price might sound cheap. |
06-29-2016, 07:50 PM
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Got chills watching the video. What an awesome piece of automotive history. Shelby is a true American Legend.
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06-29-2016, 08:02 PM
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The car will be auctioned on my birthday. Just an FYI. Everyone now knows what I want.
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06-29-2016, 08:05 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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Wow! I have seen it in person and sat in it. Gary Patterson of SAI said they used to keep trying to sneak it in the back and re-do upholstery etc and CS would have nothing to do with it. I was the "hands off" car at SAI...."leave it just like it is".
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06-29-2016, 08:12 PM
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Can't imagine what it would be like to have it in a collection.......someone is gonna be one lucky SOB!!!!
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06-29-2016, 08:20 PM
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Very cool! Will be THE one to watch! I'll be surprised though if it goes beyond $20 million.
Larry
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06-29-2016, 08:50 PM
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I believe as close to an original "test mule" as you can find.
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06-29-2016, 08:52 PM
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Random question: if you owned it, would you drive it on the road? I think I'd be too scared of an inattentive texting soccer mom. lol
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06-29-2016, 08:59 PM
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This is a car that the buyer will only be the "keeper" and make sure it stays just as it is.
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06-30-2016, 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by jmimac351
Agreed; however, this is definitely a special car, the markets are bloated, and you never know what might happen when drunk azzholes get together. It will probably be a generation before the car is available again. When dollars are used for toilet paper, the sale price might sound cheap.
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CSX 2000 is a significant piece of automotive history and a very special car, but Shelby made 654 more of them, almost exactly like it. Further Shelby, Kirkham, Superformance and ERA continue to replicate Slabsides too. |
06-30-2016, 04:35 AM
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The original is worth more, and the replicas are not even in the same ballpark...not even worthy of mentioning in the same sentence.
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06-30-2016, 07:43 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Antny
The original is worth more, and the replicas are not even in the same ballpark...not even worthy of mentioning in the same sentence.
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You missed my point. Of course, CSX2000 is worth millions upon millions and a replica isn't. But the fact is that Ferrari doesn't make replicas of the '62 GTO or the '57. And Ferrari doesn't allow other companies to make replicas either. So there's been zero watering down of the Ferrari image. And I think that adds to Ferrari mystique and value. And that's one reason why those two vintage Ferrari's sold for $35MM+. |
06-30-2016, 07:52 AM
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Comparison to Ferrari
One would think it would be saved for the grandchildren, isn't there one named Aaron who has made some public appearances? To me, nothing couilf be more impressive for the brand than to have the youngest grandkid driving Granpop's old car at an event like Monterey.
On the other hand perhaps there is no better time--with a possibility of fetching $5 from $10 million? Ironically, I don't think it will be a blast to drive like that twin Paxton 427 that sold for over 5 million. There was two of those made, one killed its owner. Shel himself said it was a blast to drive "when it wasn't on fire."
Who is the beneficiary of this sale? The Foundation? Mrs. Carroll Shelby?
Isn't this the car with inboard rear discs, the one finished at Dean Moon's shop?
They should put a sign on the windscreen "One Owner car."
It's not true Ferrari doesn't make replicas. When they decided to show an early barchetta, they didn't want to buy a real one so they had the students at the Ferrari technical Institute build one. But they have resisted to date the temptation to go back and make a few more of oldies but goodies which Jaguar is shamelessly doing, first with the Lightwight E-type and now the XKSS.
Jag will tempt Mercedes to make more 300SLRs or gullwing 300SLs and soon at auctions, you won't be able to tell what's real and what is a factory replica
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06-30-2016, 07:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
You missed my point. Of course, CSX2000 is worth millions upon millions and a replica isn't. But the fact is that Ferrari doesn't make replicas of the '62 GTO or the '57. And Ferrari doesn't allow other companies to make replicas either. So there's been zero watering down of the Ferrari image. And I think that adds to Ferrari mystique and value. And that's one reason why those two vintage Ferrari's sold for $35MM+.
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I can see this car being hawked as all original (how many different colors of paint  ), one owner, that owner being CS being a highly valuable benefit. Do I see 35M+, most likely not, do I see the realm of 5-15M, absolutely, as there are several deep pocketed, big ticket buyers out there who collect Shelby products. I suspect the Shelby Museum in Boulder being in the running, as this would be the cherry on their collections cake (so to speak), a true one of a kind automobile of significant historic importance.
Bill S.
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06-30-2016, 08:27 AM
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I can see this car being hawked as all original (how many different colors of paint ),
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Only two colors. The multi color weekly change is a Shelby legend. It was presented in bare aluminum, then painted yellow and finally the blue it is now. See about the 10 minute mark.
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06-30-2016, 09:27 AM
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RM Sothebys has a bigger "brand name"; their target client list buys higher priced hobbies like paintings. RM Sotheby sells "art." Barrett-Jackson sells cars. same sh*t, different hype.
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06-30-2016, 10:12 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmustang
I can see this car being hawked as all original (how many different colors of paint ), one owner, that owner being CS being a highly valuable benefit. Do I see 35M+, most likely not, do I see the realm of 5-15M, absolutely, as there are several deep pocketed, big ticket buyers out there who collect Shelby products. I suspect the Shelby Museum in Boulder being in the running, as this would be the cherry on their collections cake (so to speak), a true one of a kind automobile of significant historic importance.
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I agree. I originally said $5-10MM for CSX2000's value. CSX2601 sold for $7.25MM, the highest price for a Shelby product yet (I think). But I believe Jeff had the opinion that CSX2000 will sell for MORE than the two Ferrari's and I was disagreeing with that valuation.
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06-30-2016, 10:41 AM
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At $52 million for a private sale Ferrari GTO, I don't think the record is in danger of being broken.
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06-30-2016, 11:29 AM
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This car will be sold to a collector with very deep pockets - most likely someone who has enough wealth that they don't care whether it costs $10 million or $50 million. It's a rare piece of art that happens to be an automobile - kind of like the Mona Lisa happens to be a painting. The purchaser will likely be more interested in having the bragging rights to it than the pride of owning the actual car.
Only time will tell, but it will certainly be interesting to watch.
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