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Old 08-22-2016, 09:23 AM
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I'd like to see one photo of CSX2000 in any other color than yellow or blue. 😉😊
Bare aluminum is a color or at least that's what I keep telling people that gather around my Kirkham.
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Old 08-22-2016, 09:00 AM
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There was a close up photo of the chipped area on CSX2000 in the RM online catalog. I will try to post the photo later when I have access to my other files. LOL, maybe the blue can be removed to reveal the yellow?!

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Old 08-22-2016, 09:48 AM
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"That's not to say it was pampered, though. In a tale that is now legendary, Shelby pulled a little scam on the car magazines that tested this car, including Road & Track. After the Cobra was made public, CSX 2000 was sent out to every major car magazine for testing. But Shelby, wanting it to seem like he'd already built a fleet of Cobras, had the car repainted a different color before each magazine test. The magazines each thought they'd gotten a different car, and Shelby's legend was sealed." Listening to Jim King, Shelby American Historian, the car was painted several different colors including yellow, red, blue, white, green, and gold. "What ever was going to look good on the magazine cover".
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Old 08-22-2016, 10:01 AM
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"That's not to say it was pampered, though. In a tale that is now legendary, Shelby pulled a little scam on the car magazines that tested this car, including Road & Track. After the Cobra was made public, CSX 2000 was sent out to every major car magazine for testing. But Shelby, wanting it to seem like he'd already built a fleet of Cobras, had the car repainted a different color before each magazine test. The magazines each thought they'd gotten a different car, and Shelby's legend was sealed." Listening to Jim King, Shelby American Historian, the car was painted several different colors including yellow, red, blue, white, green, and gold. "What ever was going to look good on the magazine cover".
King is the "historian" I referenced that is continuing to tell a "tale"
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Old 08-22-2016, 10:16 AM
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September 1962 cover of Road & Track:
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Old 08-22-2016, 09:58 AM
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There may be some urban legend in how many times it was repainted, but the Shelby keepers deny it was "repainted recently" and that the tour guide that was saying so recently has been corrected.
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Old 08-22-2016, 10:19 AM
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Since I was a kid, I've heard the stories of CSX 2000 being painted multiple colors, but have never seen a photo of it being painted anything other than blue or yellow.
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I was way off.......
I consider this a bargain, bet it continues to make records in the next sale.....

This purchase will certainly make Miller Motorsports top flight show piece
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Got some good photos after auction. Few employees at RM auction were stating it went for 15 mil. Then I read less . Most likely I was told wrong or the auction fees really added up. Also here's a yellow chip in paint ,brought up in earlier post.
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Since I was a kid, I've heard the stories of CSX 2000 being painted multiple colors, but have never seen a photo of it being painted anything other than blue or yellow.
or bare aluminum...

My personal opinion is that the Cobra's debut story in Sports Car Graphic magazine was the origin of the multi-color rumor; because all the photos that accompanied the May 1962 SCG story showed CSX2000 in bare aluminum with "Shelby" scribbled across the trunk in cursive. (Sports Car Graphic was the precursor magazine to MotorTrend)

When SCG magazine came back to Shelby a few months later to run a couple more final tests before publishing the article, the car had already been painted yellow.

Now, whether or not Shelby "represented" this yellow car as a different car...? Who knows? - Urban legend.

Road and Track then tested CSX2000 (in yellow) for their debut article about the Cobra a few months later.

So, to me, this suggests that CSX2000 was only ever painted 2 colors- Yellow over aluminum, and blue over yellow-

The chips in the paint would coraborate this viewpoint

Whether the yellow car was represented to be a different car than the bare one, or whether the blue was represented to be a different car than the yellow one... I don't know.

Too bad all those magazines didn't publish a photo of the serial number tag with their articles...
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or bare aluminum...

My personal opinion is that the Cobra's debut story in Sports Car Graphic magazine was the origin of the multi-color rumor; because all the photos that accompanied the May 1962 SCG story showed CSX2000 in bare aluminum with "Shelby" scribbled across the trunk in cursive. (Sports Car Graphic was the precursor magazine to MotorTrend)

When SCG magazine came back to Shelby a few months later to run a couple more final tests before publishing the article, the car had already been painted yellow.

Now, whether or not Shelby "represented" this yellow car as a different car...? Who knows? - Urban legend.

Road and Track then tested CSX2000 (in yellow) for their debut article about the Cobra a few months later.

So, to me, this suggests that CSX2000 was only ever painted 2 colors- Yellow over aluminum, and blue over yellow-

The chips in the paint would coraborate this viewpoint

Whether the yellow car was represented to be a different car than the bare one, or whether the blue was represented to be a different car than the yellow one... I don't know.

Too bad all those magazines didn't publish a photo of the serial number tag with their articles...
Easy to tell CSX2000 from any other Cobra. The long decklid, the offset fuel filler and the over riders that are different from all others. The Road & Track photos are clearly CSX2000 as are some others; all of which appear to be either bare alloy or yellow. The "painted numerous colors" story appears to have no basis in fact that can be photographically verified that I am aware of.

"Sports Car Graphic" was an imprint of the Peterson Publishing group and a sister publication to "Motor Trend". They both published and existed at the same time until SCG's demise in late 1969.
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I see yellow paint on the lower front bumper left (driver's side).
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csx 2000 starts at 01:01:00

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Here's the pic of the paint chip on CSX2000 that shows the layers. Seems like more than just yellow and blue to me... at least white additionally.
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Old 08-22-2016, 01:29 PM
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Here's the pic of the paint chip on CSX2000 that shows the layers. Seems like more than just yellow and blue to me... at least white additionally.
Looks like layer of bondo to me.
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Looks like layer of bondo to me.
of course it does
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Maybe it had been only presented 3 times, changing appearance only twice... ;-)
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It seems such a tiny car. I guess it is, lol.
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Wait, is that base layer.....fiberglass? (runs and hides.... :-) )
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My thought, exactly!

Not very clear...but certainly "suspicious".

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