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10-21-2017, 08:40 AM
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Title Information Questions
Looking for information of legality of Title transaction:
Title was purchased in Georgia, brought to PA. and registered in purchaser’s name in Pa. Title was then sold to a purchaser in Colorado.
Please advise of any laws that may have been broken, and any solutions to rectify
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10-21-2017, 09:05 AM
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What do you mean "title" Is there a car or not? You can probably buy and sell the title as much as you want as it is nothing more than a piece of paper. It becomes illegal when you take the Vin number from that title and try to attach it to a car that the title wasn't originally for.
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10-21-2017, 09:44 AM
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yes it was with the car
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10-21-2017, 10:16 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF MKII Riverside Racer FIA
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At face value it does not sound illegal as long as the title has not been altered in any way. What can be problematic sometimes when you go to register is how the vehicle is titled. Some states allow for replicas to be titled as the year that they replicate, while others title them as the year the car was built. So, if a car was originally titled as the year of replication and is then bought by a person in a state that titles as the year built, the new state may want to change the title to the year built, instead of what it was originally titled as.
What causes you to be concerned?
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10-21-2017, 12:40 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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So as I read this the car was purchased and titled in Georgia. That owner then moved to PA and the car was registered, but the car was not titled, in PA. The car was then sold and titled to someone in CO.
The registration and titling in CO would have been based on the GA title.
In short, the skipping of the PA title is allowed by most states. It is not CO's concern where the title originates, and apparently PA did not require the car to be retitled to be registered.
This is not unusual. For example I bought my Ford GT while I lived in Colorado and titled it there (since the ownership changed). When I moved to Nevada I was not required to change to a Nevada title so I still hold the Colorado title. When I sell the car, the Colorado title would be endorsed to the new owner and they would have to re-title the car in their state.
FYI, the title is a document of legal ownership. Trust me - possession of the car may be 9/10 of the law, but that remaining 1/10 is what allows banks to repossess and title loan companies to operate.
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Last edited by twobjshelbys; 10-21-2017 at 12:45 PM..
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10-22-2017, 06:04 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CSXCOBRAS
Looking for information of legality of Title transaction:
Title was purchased in Georgia, brought to PA. and registered in purchaser’s name in Pa. Title was then sold to a purchaser in Colorado.
Please advise of any laws that may have been broken, and any solutions to rectify
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While the above is semi correct, in order to register the car for the street in PA, the Georgia title would have had to have been turned in to the state of PA. As such, the story from the seller is not quite 100% accurate, I'd check the dates of the original title in Georgia vs the registration in PA to see if something hokey did not occur in it's past that could cause the car to be revinned and retitled vs perhaps having been used as collateral for a past loan(s). Car being sold into Colorado and then titled there is not an issue.
Of course, with the above said, we do need a little more information as to the car, is it a CSX continuation series, is it another Cobra replica, or is it something completely else, as your posts are extremely vague (on purpose I expect). How you respond, and how the details/timelines are laid out (no VIN needed) will determine your next course of action before you buy the vehicle.
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