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08-15-2018, 04:53 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle,
Ne.
Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
Posts: 4,307
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Interesting- 1965 Shelby AC Shelby 427 Cobra CSX1005 Aluminum Body
It's on ebay. I don't know everything about the continued series, so the details of making this deal of Carroll and AC is interesting. Wonder why they couldn't finish the 150 cars ?
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Carroll Shelby signed a 3 year contract with AC in 2004 to build 50 cars a year for a total of 150 cars, these cars were to be exact replicas of the 60’s cars, except for gauges and the things needed to be federally compliant in the USA. The first 13 cars all have the Shelby AC Cobra badge on the hood. None after that authentically carry the AC badge, only a Cobra badge as AC was out of the picture from car 14-22. AC was unable to meet production times with Carroll Shelby and the deal ended during car 14.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Shelby-AC-S...RbcLWX&vxp=mtr
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Kevin
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08-15-2018, 07:09 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Lafayette,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Looking to buy
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Interesting. I'm wondering about the 490 ci overbore...? What is the value of these cars?
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08-15-2018, 07:55 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
NV
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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The CSX1000 series aluminum cars are exquisite. There are several discussions of them here already. I saw one of the roller bodies delivered to Vegas and it was a work of art.
PS. Nowhere near those numbers were built. Maybe 10-15 max total. Regarding why, the answer is that is all they sold. Shelby builds to order, not on spec. Dealers order from Shelby so the spec is at the dealers.
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Tony
CSX4005LA
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08-15-2018, 09:08 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: SF Bay Area,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #1019
Posts: 1,657
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08-16-2018, 07:53 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
NH
Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
Posts: 19,005
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Dumb question
What is the difference between an alloy 4000 and a 1000 visually?
Thanks
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08-16-2018, 09:05 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Dallas,
Tx
Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 3020 Competition, 427; CSX 4385 Aluminum Body, 427; CSX 2096, 289
Posts: 375
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 1985 CCX
Dumb question
What is the difference between an alloy 4000 and a 1000 visually?
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The $200,000 of cash 💰 in a bag stuck to the trunk?
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08-17-2018, 10:57 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
PA
Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
Posts: 2,330
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Quote:
Originally Posted by twobjshelbys
The CSX1000 series aluminum cars are exquisite. There are several discussions of them here already. I saw one of the roller bodies delivered to Vegas and it was a work of art.
PS. Nowhere near those numbers were built. Maybe 10-15 max total. Regarding why, the answer is that is all they sold. Shelby builds to order, not on spec. Dealers order from Shelby so the spec is at the dealers.
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I think the original problem was that Alan Lubinsky seems to usually deliver vapor ware in terms of cars. I think he got someone from
South Africa to help him get a dozen or so cars out, but then he screwed over that guy and things fell apart. I think that may be documented in one of Trevor Legates books. After AC could no longer deliver Shelby found one or two other English suppliers for the 1000 series but I doubt there has been as much interest in those since the AC marketing pitch no longer applies.
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08-17-2018, 12:09 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Chicago,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4***
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Unless the seller has all the paperwork tying it to AC he won't get the money. Even then with the Kirkam CSX cars this will be a tough sell.
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08-17-2018, 03:18 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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The stripes ruin it for me. Superformance, sure. But on a CSX1000?
We do/did have a CSX1000 expert of two on the forum at one point and time. I thought these were valued around the $250,000-$300,000 range not too long ago.
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08-18-2018, 06:51 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiChris
Unless the seller has all the paperwork tying it to AC he won't get the money. Even then with the Kirkam CSX cars this will be a tough sell.
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With such a low serial number this is definitely an AC linked car, even if AC under Lubinsky doesn’t carry the same respect as AC under original ownership or as owned by Angliss and Ford.
And considering that it seems to be miraculous that Lubinsky actually managed to deliver anything at all that makes this car rather rare and certainly not simply slapping a different badge on it and calling it something special. I am sure this car will sell for a good premium over a Kirkham based CSX.
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08-18-2018, 06:57 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry),
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Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
The stripes ruin it for me. Superformance, sure. But on a CSX1000?
We do/did have a CSX1000 expert of two on the forum at one point and time. I thought these were valued around the $250,000-$300,000 range not too long ago.
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This is strange, I am going to agree with RodKnock on something, I really dislike the stripe color. At least the stripes are not pink, green or beige.
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08-18-2018, 01:59 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiChris
Unless the seller has all the paperwork tying it to AC he won't get the money. Even then with the Kirkam CSX cars this will be a tough sell.
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Probably wrong. These cars sell for top dollar. Not to anyone here because everyone has been trained to be anti Shelby and think that only Kirkham has ever made an alloy car. I think only one owner has ever shown up and he did a pretty good job documenting them.
The fact that the car is on ebay is a detractor. The seller and dealer are really underestimating it as they usually move through private placements (like the originals).
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Last edited by twobjshelbys; 08-18-2018 at 02:02 PM..
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08-18-2018, 05:53 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 539, a Ton of Aluminum
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I finally read the ad. Geez, the ad may have been written by someone where English is their 2nd language. Also who’s this “Manuel”?
Also, the “C” engine meant you elected to have it bored out to 490? Huh, wha?
“Under the hood a powerful 1965 Shelby 427 V8 with the "C" engine option that meant you elected to have it bored out to 490 cu in that produces 683HP, with a 5 speed Manuel transmission. With these low miles this is the ultimate Collector car!”
Oh and a CSX1000 is the “ultimate collector car”? Really? The Ultimate Shelby replica sure, I’d buy that, but what about the 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO for $40,000,000? Please stop with the hyperbole.
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08-18-2018, 06:35 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: League City,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #828
Posts: 148
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Maybe the legendary ‘C’ engine option makes it the ultimate collector’s car....
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