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09-23-2020, 07:54 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: # 757 ERA 427 SC , 482 Al. big block
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ERA Outer Tie Rods
Wanting to replace outer tie rod ends on ERA 757 and their book calls out Moog ES425RL. Only problem , Moog says that part isn`t available anymore , NAPA doesn`t have a crossover and the TRW part isn`t available anymore .
I`ll be calling ERA tomorrow , just trying to jump start things here .
The one replacement isn`t a heavy duty one according to Moog , who makes it for the big box retailers .
So , what are you ERA guys using currently ?
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09-24-2020, 07:09 AM
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They're getting hard to find. I found a couple of places that still list the Moog ES425R. I'm also going to check out an off-brand that I found.
I may have to change the upright to accommodate something more contemporary, but that gets complicated.
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09-24-2020, 07:58 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #1950, Roush 402R, TKO600
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobcat
Wanting to replace outer tie rod ends on ERA 757 and their book calls out Moog ES425RL. Only problem , Moog says that part isn`t available anymore , NAPA doesn`t have a crossover and the TRW part isn`t available anymore .
I`ll be calling ERA tomorrow , just trying to jump start things here .
The one replacement isn`t a heavy duty one according to Moog , who makes it for the big box retailers .
So , what are you ERA guys using currently ?
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Bobcat
I'm in Canada and crossed your part number over to a Napa part number. The Napa number is NCP 2692301
Sorry, I don't know if that part number will work in the USA, good luck. |
09-24-2020, 08:02 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Little Rock area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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It pulls up at my local store (Arkansas).
Bob - sounds like it might be a good idea to buy a couple of these and squirrel away in spare parts?
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09-24-2020, 08:17 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: # 757 ERA 427 SC , 482 Al. big block
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You`re both correct on the NAPA number .....local guy found the number , problem is no warehouses in his area have the tie rod end . I did find a TRW 425R at Rock Auto , and according to Moog , that was made by them and is a good number . Two are on the way to me now .
Talked to ERA this morning and they`re aware of the issue and are looking at some alternatives .
So , yes , plan to have some backup stock here .
Thanks for the help .
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09-24-2020, 01:22 PM
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I just checked Rockauto and there was a TRW ES425R tie rod end and it was on closeout for around $8.25. I obviously ordered a pair for that price. Hopefully the ES isn't something different but for $26 to the door it seemed like a low stakes gamble.
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09-24-2020, 03:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rads42
I just checked Rockauto and there was a TRW ES425R tie rod end and it was on closeout for around $8.25. I obviously ordered a pair for that price. Hopefully the ES isn't something different but for $26 to the door it seemed like a low stakes gamble.
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Me too.  |
09-24-2020, 04:24 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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Question - all these part numbers have an "L" or "R" in them. I assume this stands for right and left hand threads???? Which do we need? If the ERA #Moog ES425RL is a left hand thread tie rod then this TRW with an "R" in it may not work.
Hopefully I'm wrong as I have a couple in my basket at Rockauto but haven't pulled the trigger yet.
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09-25-2020, 05:42 AM
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Both sides on the ERA are right-hand threads.
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09-25-2020, 05:52 AM
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Thanks Bob. I’m going to go ahead and get a couple of spares just in case.
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09-25-2020, 08:23 AM
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Looks like Rock Auto may owe me a commission on moving their old stock
Mine should be here early next week . Still trying to find the vibration in the front end and hope the tie rod ends are it , but I doubt it . Probably in the tires , but they were rechecked and I was told they were ok . Taking them to a different place this time . |
09-25-2020, 02:08 PM
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Yeah - I got the last one. Found another on Ebay that was actually a bit less overall since they provided free shipping. Probably would have gotten a break on shipping if Rockauto still had a pair but came out OK in the end.
But you did good - I would hit them up for that commission.
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09-25-2020, 02:20 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #795 427 S/C completed Jan. '14 - '68 FE 427 side oiler
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Quote:
Originally Posted by strictlypersonl
They're getting hard to find. I found a couple of places that still list the Moog ES425R. I'm also going to check out an off-brand that I found.
I may have to change the upright to accommodate something more contemporary, but that gets complicated.
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Hi Bob,
For those of us who aren't hoarding toilet paper and Moog tie rods (sorry Dan, couldn't resist), please let us know what you come up with.
Thanks,
Kevin
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09-25-2020, 04:55 PM
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This NAPA number worked for me: NCP 2692301
Only issue is that they were $32 each vs. $15 shipped from Rock Auto.
If you actually NEEDED a pair, the $64 wouldn't be that big of a deal. |
09-25-2020, 05:50 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Aren't these just outer tie rods for a '77 Chevy Vega? You can still get those AC Delco parts and three or four other manufacturers as well. I don't think you need to hoard them.  |
09-26-2020, 05:32 AM
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I’m kind of an amatuer horder. I have some friends who are serious horders. It’s an affliction.
Last edited by DanEC; 09-26-2020 at 07:12 AM..
Reason: Typing before coffee
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09-26-2020, 06:49 AM
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I’m kind of an armature border. I have some friends who are serious hordes. It’s an affliction.
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Just what I need, a horde of armatures on the border. I hate auto-correction.  |
09-26-2020, 07:13 AM
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Just saw that. Unfortunately it may have been caffeine insufficiency as much as auto spell check.
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09-27-2020, 07:37 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Aren't these just outer tie rods for a '77 Chevy Vega? You can still get those AC Delco parts and three or four other manufacturers as well. I don't think you need to hoard them. |
Haven't all the '77 Chevy Vegas gone to their graves by now?  And if so who needs parts for them anymore?  |
09-27-2020, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
Haven't all the '77 Chevy Vegas gone to their graves by now? And if so who needs parts for them anymore? |
Apparently a couple of manufacturers, including AC Delco. And if you check Rock Auto, they also have other manufacturers, including one last Moog tie rod and some by Mevotech and Delphi. |
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