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04-16-2021, 11:08 PM
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Location: Ripon,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427 Side Oiler
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Csx8000
Do any members have a 8000 series Cobra? I’m am considering buying a used 289 car and was wondering if there is something I should be aware of, or watch out for?
The car I’m looking at has a fiberglass trunk lid and the engine compartment and trunk are aluminum lined. The car appears to have a lot of aluminum but a fiberglass trunk lid seems odd.
Any advice would be appreciated.
Thank you
Joe
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04-17-2021, 04:16 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Adelaide,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AP 289FIA 'English' spec.
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Joe, isn't the rest of the body on a CSX8000 car fibreglass as well?
Cheers,
Glen
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04-17-2021, 10:59 PM
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Location: Ripon,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427 Side Oiler
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I think they offer them aluminum and fiberglass, what is a quick easy way to tell aluminum as opposed to fiberglass body’s?
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04-17-2021, 11:13 PM
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Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SAI FIA, 289HP (5-bolt), 48IDA Webers
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If it is a fiberglass bodied 8000 then the, doors, hood and truck lid will be fiberglass. At the same time if it is an aluminum bodied 8000 then the, doors, hood and trunk lid will be aluminum.
That being said there are owners of fiberglass bodied Cobras that have gone through the additional expense of having aluminum, doors, hood and trunk lids made from aluminum for their fiberglass bodied Cobras.
Things to watch out for on the 8000 Series Cobras are mostly suspension related. On the early cars Shelby used a inferior leaf springs on the front and the rear that would start sagging quickly. Another issue is the camber adjustment that Shelby had built into the front and rear uprights, it was a good idea that was poorly executed. Another thing the early cars used was a fuel bladder instead of a traditional fuel tank, this caused a finite service life of 4 years and the tank itself has a very low capacity. Another is the foot box size it is a 427 type foot box, it works well for doing exhaust work but in doing so makes the foot box very tight compared to later built cars that used a correct type 289 foot box.
An easy way to tell an aluminum body from a fiberglass body is look at how the body itself is fastened to the frame tubes, fiberglass cars tend to be flat edged and have very few rivets, an aluminum bodied car will have rolled over edges (the body aluminum rolls around the frame structure) and a substantial number of rivets under the rolled over edge (approx spaced every 4” or so).
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04-18-2021, 06:45 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF#0760
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What year was the car built? I have a extensive list of info on all the newer CSX 7000 & 8000 cars and the Superformance MKII Street and Slabsides since I make the Owner’s Manuals & Diagrams.
Maybe I can help.
Blas
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04-18-2021, 08:35 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CompClassics
If it is a fiberglass bodied 8000 then the, doors, hood and truck lid will be fiberglass. At the same time if it is an aluminum bodied 8000 then the, doors, hood and trunk lid will be aluminum.
That being said there are owners of fiberglass bodied Cobras that have gone through the additional expense of having aluminum, doors, hood and trunk lids made from aluminum for their fiberglass bodied Cobras.
Things to watch out for on the 8000 Series Cobras are mostly suspension related. On the early cars Shelby used a inferior leaf springs on the front and the rear that would start sagging quickly. Another issue is the camber adjustment that Shelby had built into the front and rear uprights, it was a good idea that was poorly executed. Another thing the early cars used was a fuel bladder instead of a traditional fuel tank, this caused a finite service life of 4 years and the tank itself has a very low capacity. Another is the foot box size it is a 427 type foot box, it works well for doing exhaust work but in doing so makes the foot box very tight compared to later built cars that used a correct type 289 foot box.
An easy way to tell an aluminum body from a fiberglass body is look at how the body itself is fastened to the frame tubes, fiberglass cars tend to be flat edged and have very few rivets, an aluminum bodied car will have rolled over edges (the body aluminum rolls around the frame structure) and a substantial number of rivets under the rolled over edge (approx spaced every 4” or so).
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That’s an impressive answer, and I really appreciate you taken the time to help me. Thank you very much
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04-18-2021, 08:49 AM
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Location: LAS VEGAS,
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Cobra Make, Engine: contemporary(2) one with 427 sohc and one with 427 center oiler
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CSX 8967 Anniversary, all aluminum
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04-18-2021, 11:25 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique Motorcars 289 USRRC, 1964 289 stroked to 331, toploader
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Nice 260 car!
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Originally Posted by legenmetals
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Wow, Mark, nice car, but really, you should wash it before taking and posting photos...
Ok, amazing paint work... so slick the leaves look real!
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Unique Motorcars 289 USRRC
1964 289 5-bolt block
Toploader and 3.31 rear
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04-19-2021, 04:29 AM
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please, please provide us with more pictures!
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04-19-2021, 12:10 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SAI FIA, 289HP (5-bolt), 48IDA Webers
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You are welcome, Mr Barnwood.
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04-19-2021, 08:02 PM
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please, please provide us with more pictures!
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Just click on my profile, should be a couple more.
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04-19-2021, 10:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blas
What year was the car built? I have a extensive list of info on all the newer CSX 7000 & 8000 cars and the Superformance MKII Street and Slabsides since I make the Owner’s Manuals & Diagrams.
Maybe I can help.
Blas
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The number is about CSX 8020, today I found out it’s a fiberglass car, so I’m going to pass.
Thank you
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04-20-2021, 08:57 PM
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Joe,
You're going to pass on the car because it's fiberglass? Are you looking for an aluminum car, or just not sure. Both are great cars, though the aluminum will be more costly.
- Bill -
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04-20-2021, 10:09 PM
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I am going to pass. I am president of the More money then brains club and I’m impulsive and I see something and want to buy it but I have a lot of cars and a lot of motorcycles so I’m going to pass.
One of the mechanics at a garage that I have some financial interest in called me and said there was a Cobra in for work and the owner can’t drive and was thinking about selling it. He has since decided he’s going to give it to his son or Grandson.
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04-20-2021, 10:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by legenmetals
Just click on my profile, should be a couple more.
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Great pictures!
Is that cast steel bellhousing polished??
Cheers,
Glen
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04-21-2021, 12:39 AM
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Sure is, as well as the tranny, block and steel slave cylinder mount.
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04-21-2021, 03:01 AM
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You can see your reflection in the transmission, block and slave cylinder mount as well as the bellhousing??
Wow, I'm impressed!
Cheers,
Glen
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04-25-2021, 02:38 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique Motorcars 289 USRRC, 1964 289 stroked to 331, toploader
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Super nice build!
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Originally Posted by xb-60
You can see your reflection in the transmission, block and slave cylinder mount as well as the bellhousing??
Wow, I'm impressed!
Cheers,
Glen
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Yes, you can! That build is amazing!
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Unique Motorcars 289 USRRC
1964 289 5-bolt block
Toploader and 3.31 rear
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08-02-2021, 05:56 AM
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Wrong thread!
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08-02-2021, 06:00 AM
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Wrong Thread!
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