Does anyone have information about this Cobra?

[Buzz]

Originally Posted by 1Bigfish

The frame is box not tube.

Box, rectangular tube - same thing. In reference to the E-M comparison in my last post, I meant that Everett Morrison, like Contemporary, has a round tube frame and therefore that rules it out as well.

[767Jockey]

This is so strange. It's almost totally a Contemporary, except it can't be with a box frame. This is super odd. I can't wait to see what it turns out to be. Does it have a 90" wheelbase?

[Harpoon PV2]

Hay, if a plastic Cobra and Momo steering wheel are good enough for this real deal S/C, it's good enough for all of the Cobra's built since after the 60s! Cheers, Dennis

[1Bigfish]

The 5F07C621662 is what I found in an older advertisement. The owner told me the SW 61100 is on the Shelby ID plate on the firewall as well as the title.
How about the rivets on the hood and hood scoop. Does this indicate any particular manufacturer?

[mrmustang]

I keep looking at the pictures, especially the under hood picture with the snake caricature thinking I've seen this car, or pictures of it before :
https://www.classicandcollectorcars....5-shelby-cobra



Bill S.

[mrmustang]

Still stumped by the front inner structure shown, especially the oval cutout at the front of the strut coming across the oil pan area. Can't say I've ever seen that before, and I've seen a lot of Cobras over the years.

[1Bigfish]

The 5F07C621662 is what I found in an older advertisement. The owner told me the SW 61100 is on the Shelby ID plate on the firewall as well as the title.
How about the rivets on the hood and hood scoop. Does this indicate any particular manufacturer?

[1Bigfish]

The car has been on the internet. It could have been on eBay with the item number 125389710703 on 6/27/22 but eBay records only go back 90 days. I plan to look at the car tomorrow and will take photos of the undercarriage.

[767Jockey]

Originally Posted by 1Bigfish

The asking price is $69000 which I think is high. After owning an AC MkIV for 15 years I am hesitant to buy a kit. Where should I look for a factory VIN or chassis number.

Just my opinion, which is worth what you paid for it, but $69K will buy you one hell of a Cobra - that's well into ERA territory. You can certainly buy a CCX, SPF or Backdraft for that money as well. No way I would pay that for a used Cobra of unknown or questionable heritage. That's high end car with a fiberglass body pricing.

EDIT - I just looked through those photos again. There is nothing at all on this body that is not 100% Contemporary. Door hinges, hood hinges, sidepipe openings, raised boss under the front parking lights, tunnel shape and size, rear bulkhead, and many, many other things. I'd have to guess at this point perhaps a Frankenstein car - a CCX body on unknown chassis.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by 767Jockey

I'd have to guess at this point perhaps a Frankenstein car - a CCX body on unknown chassis.

Or, a backyard repair on a true CCX.....

One never knows.


Bill S.

[Alfa02]

Could this be the same car?? I saw this car on E-Bay last year, with a LOT of up-grades, different wheels, new tan carpets, and I think the Snake painting under the hood?? PhotoPost Classifieds - Hurricane Motorsports Cobra NJ Title/Reg - Powered by PhotoPost Classifieds

[Buzz]

Hi Tom - definitely not a Hurricane. Hurricanes have a distinctively lower (more "correct") side profile, correct angled radiator, exposed roll bar legs and a "battery ledge" behind the seats. Additionally, I don't think their optional IRS was a Jaguar based unit.

[Thor maine]

I think both E-M and Midstates had a square tube frame option and both E-M and Midstates splashed their bodies from a Contemporary they look alike!

[Buzz]

You're right about E-M's body - They absolutely did use a Contemporary-based body shape; but they had backward tilted radiators, very prominent cowl hoop in the cockpit area and big, flat, prominent triangulated hood-pin areas at the trailing corners of the engine bay opening.
On closer inspection though, you might be onto something with Midstates. Other than the Jag IRS which I think would be rare (but possible) on a Midstates, there's a lot of similarities. The only differences I can readily see are the trunk floor, front suspension lower arms, rear fender lip and the depth of the inner lip around the engine bay opening. The underside of the hood and hood hinges are identical. So far I think Midstates is the closest but still some differences.

[mvanhorn8893]

Originally Posted by 1Bigfish

The car has been on the internet. It could have been on eBay with the item number 125389710703 on 6/27/22 but eBay records only go back 90 days. I plan to look at the car tomorrow and will take photos of the undercarriage.

Were you able to look at the car? Any frame details to share?
Interested to see what it is.
Mike

[incoming]

Unique has a rectangle frame but not a torsion bar frame? Maybe a one-off clip-car front-end?

Just throwing darts?

[winnipaw]

If it’s a real 427 FE side oiler it’s a bargain.

[winnipaw]

If it’s a real 427 FE SO it’s a deal.

[Thor maine]

I looked back at my collection of Kit Car and Kit car Illustrated dating back to the 80's. MidStates and E-M did offer a lot of frame and suspension options. Square or round tube and rear suspensions with live axle, Jag and Corvette and front suspension with Mustang II and corvette and custom. I did not see a picture of this car with the Jag torsion bar IFS?

[bcrumpley]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

As for 427 engines, Ford created "center oiler" (non cross bolted) and side oiler (cross bolted) 427 engines. Beware that plenty of people have mistaken 390 engines with 427 heads installed as 427 engines in the past. Check all casting codes, check all date codes at the very least.

Bill S.

All 427s have the center three main caps crossbolted. Not a difference there between a side oiler and a center oiler.