Who has built a Street Version?

[Dwight]

THANKS FOR THE PICS. I SAVE THEM ALL BECAUSE MY NEXT COBRA WILL BE A 351, NO SIDE PIPES, NO ROLL BAR, NO HOOD SCOOP, NO STRIPES.






AMERICAN LUMBER( PLYWOOD) IS BEING SHIPPED TO IRAN. 3,600,000 BUNDLES. $9 PLYWOOD NOW COST $23.95 A SHEET. I JUST BOUGHT 98 SHEETS FOR MY NEW SHOP, THE NEW SNAKE PIT.

[Steve Kirkham]

We've built a couple. This is KMP 232


Here's a link to some more pics

The rear fenders are different, no rollbar or hoodscoop. They're a special order and the same price as all the rest of our cars.

[chuckbrandt]

Or am I seeing things?

Chuck

[Steve Kirkham]

Originally posted by chuckbrandt


Or am I seeing things?

Chuck

No oil cooler scoop, though obviously one can be built in. Whichever way you'd like.

[ST]

Sure, now it's avaliable, I wanted one of those two years ago.

Maybe sometime in the near future.

[chuckbrandt]

I read that street cars after serial 3300 did not have the scoop. Lucky for me I'm trying to emulate an earlier car... phew

I do kind of feel the need to put an oil cooler in there though, looks goofy with just a hole.

Would be interesting to see an original street car with the scoop but no oil cooler. Or was it standard equipment?

Chuck

[Traveller]

Originally posted by snakeeyes


CC member Traveller has (had? I haven't seen him post in a long time) a really nice ERA "street" version in red. Traveller, if you're out there, how about a picture or two?

Bob

I still have it Bob,

[Realwon]

I built a CSX a few years ago and as far as I know I am only 1of 1 Shelby American built street versions ever made in fiberglass.
It is original Guardsman blue, no stripes , no side-pipes but it does have a hood scoop ,roll bar and functional oil cooler. It has a street dash, ash try, radio,windshield wipers,15" halibrands and a glove box. I have less clearance than my SPF buddies but they love the sound and look of my car. Plus with a 427/ 525 ponies, my times at the strip are just in line with my friends. HRE swears to me that if I ever were to go to side-pipes I wouldn't gain a single hp.
Of the 3000 series cars only around 37 of the 350 original cars were S/C s. Most street versions however were converted in the 70's and 80's to S/C's. At this last years Barret-Jackson auction an original "untouched" street version actually went for more than an original converted S/C.
Good luck with your choices!!!!!

[Anthony]

I know of 3 other CSX4000 cars that were built as street or semi-street versions (under the car exhaust). One of them even had the sunburst wheels and gas cap made flush to the fender, in addition to the dash layout.

[rdorman]

I to am giving serious consideration to going full street when it comes time to restore the old Unique. The body is already the Roadster, 'narrow hip', body. But it does have the recessed gas cap, oil cooler and hood scoop.

I am thinking full under car exhaust, loosing the cooler and scoop, keeping the hood scoop or going to one fed be the high pressure area at the base of the windshield fed through lovers (that is a BIG if), maybe changing the gas caps but keeping the PSE wheels (maybe going to knock-offs), I just don't care for the sunburst wheels. Painting it the 40th anniversary 'intense blue' with no stripes. I think it would make for a beautiful car.

If I go this route, I am also thinking of changing the buckets to a high back with head rest type seat. So here is a question to you all:

IF THE COBRA HAD BEEN AVAILABLE WITH A HIGH BACK BUCKET WITH A HEAD REST, FROM WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WOULD HAVE COME OR WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WOULD LOOK LIKE?

While I truly understand why folks use new racing style seats, if I am going to depart I want them to look like they are from the sixties (but fit like their more modern conterparts).


ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS:
I am not thrilled with the fit of the old Unique body panels. Has anyone had any experience with 'glassing in' all the panels and then cutting the openings back out to get a nice tight fit?

Also, for those who do have undercar exhausts, what type of mufflers have you used and where did you put them? How do they sound? I would be looking for deep/throaty but with out the race car/trumpet levels.

Has anyone tried a rear windscreen? I was thinking of shortened top bows with the type of mesh that you see on modern roadsters sewn to the bows that would fit in the stock top ferrell location. Go in real quick for the LONG drive to cut down on buffeting. I just just wondering it any one had experimented with this.

I don't know if any of this will happen but just some things I have been kicking around. I would want the car to look original as possible while also making it 'driver friendly'. At least as friendly as you can make a Cobra!

Rick

[grumpy]

rdorman,
I have built and sold more Street "R" versions than SC or Competition versions to date. That's what most "purist" COBRA owners seem to want to drive. 70% in Red, also. I've always dumped the exhaust out the side in front of the rear wheels in lieu of the rear exit "dualies". Didn't want to melt the tops as they did often in the 60's. A few "melts" were even warrantied by SAI.
grumpy

[edited "when the softop was stored in the trunk the aluminum panels heated to the point of melting the rear plastic windows and in the case the owner didn't take time to pouch his sidecurtains it would melt them too"]

[rdorman]

What do you mean?
Thanks
Rick

[weekendwarrior]

Originally posted by rdorman


What do you mean?
Thanks
Rick

I think he means the exhaust as it goes up and over the IRS, it gets real close to the body and trunk pan which in the originals as made out of fiberglass.

Wonderful site for original info.

http://www.pacificsites.com/~brooke/CSX3282.shtml

Maybe with a modern puller fan the results are different but this original car owned for many years by the same owner, wound up adding the scoop, turkey pan and oil cooler so the car would run right.

I agree the street cars are the best looking but after owning several British cars the cooling always seemed to be an issue so I went with a sccop and oil cooler. They did make some wide hipped street cars even though the narrow hipped look better.



Gary

[rdorman]

Never thought of heating the body to the point of melting the top! Will definiatly have to keep that in mind if I go that route.

Cooling. I don't have much of an issue on cooling now. I do run a modern 'pull' type fan instead of the twin pushers. More than likely I would retain the hood scoop. While it may not be a standard street item, I like it. As for the oil cooler. I may try by passing it for a while before a final decision is made. If I do retain it I could mount it in front of the radiator as opposed to the scoop. Maybe some day!

Any other thoughts on the questions I asked?

Rick

[NeedAntiVenom]

I did mine in street trim after seeing ERA #2017, the BRG, wire wheel one on the ERA site.

Picture was taken by Bob Putnam.

[rdorman]

street/fia combo. Looks great.
Rick

[weekendwarrior]

rdorman, It was suggested to me and I will go that direction. When I was a kid our street cars did 350 to 400hp and used 2" od pipes. I assume anything over 400hp needs to breathe better. Look at

http://www.spintechmufflers.com/

they make 3"x2" oval pipe and mufflers that should hug the body but still increase the exhaust flow. I plan to exit before the rear tires, way to much restriction going over the top. Look at the ERA site and the undercar exhaust, it is makes a big loop and only works with inboard brakes.

The custom header will be the tricky part.

NAV, Beautiful car, tan interior?

Gary

[Rich]

Rick, can you define "narrow hip"? I've seen this term in British magazines, but couldn't tell what they were talking about.

By the way, we have an NWCC member up here with a drop dead gorgeous Rangoon Red, street version High Tech 427.

Rich

[rdorman]

Gary, weekendwarrior, you must have been reading my mind about the oval pipe! I will check that out. The ERA with the under car exhaust on the ERA sight looked as though it might have stock exhaust manifolds but I couldn't tell. I know I don't really want to go there!

Rich, look at the pictures of my car in my gallery. Here is one that shows it pretty well

http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/s...t=1&thecat=998

Or look at the first pic posted by STG compaired to the red car above, see the difference in the wheel flares? Mine is more like the car posted by STG.

Rick

[rdorman]

I also found this:
http://www.csxinfo.net/427cobra/streetcar.htm

According to the description at this site:

"E) This car also has the wide rear flares, or "wide hip" body. Notice that the rear wheelwells are slightly flaired. The narrow rear flared cars or "narrow hip" had no flares, or only a small lip on the rear wheelwells. "

They are talking about CSX3342, there are also some pictures of CSX3111. You can

Compaired to the S/C or comp type rear flair you can really see a difference.

Rick