New name for Replicas by Barrett Jackson - Page 3

tabester · #41 (**permalink**) 01-19-2003, 11:00 PM

Looks like we should quit trying to improve on anything. If it's not the first of it's kind it's just not ever going to live up to the original. Hope your not the second kid in your family. NUFF said

flipper35 · #42 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 12:18 AM

My wife thought they reminded her of Cliff Claven from cheers. They know how to talk, they just don't always know what they are saying. (She says the one with the strange accent just comes accross as an idiot).

Excaliber · #43 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 12:26 AM

Tabester,,,,uh,,,I'm the third one. The first one would think it up, con the second into doing it and the third one always got blamed for it! See, it's hard to beat the "original", ha ha.

Ernie

mrmustang · #44 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 04:57 AM

Evan,

While your response is eloquent (and quite lengthy) as usual, you have still not answered my question(s). Please answer my original two questions please. (make sure to check the PS in my original posting on this thread).

Bill S.

casaleenie · #45 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 06:47 AM

Barrett-Jackson--
Just an observation...
Did anyone else notice how quickly the "quintessential Corvette"a 1967 red coupe was brought up on the block and how quickly it was removed? The announcers talked it up like crazy and then it was gone. On a car like that they usually work the hell out of it and try to drive the price... The hammer came down with little effort and at a comparatively low price... Curious as to who bought that car and if it was a payback for something...

Wayne Maybury · #46 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 08:50 AM

I only started to get "Speed" a few months ago so this was the first B-J auction I have seen. I couldn't believe how poorly informed the announcers were. Granted they cannot be experts on each and every car that comes on the block but you would think that they would have some idea of what it is they are looking at.

I also found it very strange how they would "work" the price for some cars while they would simply just give up on others with virtually no effort. I also found it very strange just how much some people are willing to pay for a car that was owned by a celebrity. $137,000 for a yellow Cuda or Challenger or whatever it was??????? because Don Johnson is the seller?????

As far as "other" Cobras being Tupper Ware or whatever, who cares? I started to get tired of this REAL versus replica arguement some time ago. I am very happy when I am out there driving my FPSB (as they are referred to at another Cobra site).

Wayne

Rich · #47 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 08:56 AM

Here's a forum to voice your displeasure with the BJ announcers and their dumb ass comments.

http://insider.speedtv.com/modules.p...99&forum=11&12

Rich

BT SNAKE · #48 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 09:05 AM

Generally I stay clear of these kind of debates about replica verses real but this time I feel there is one missing detail. In 1986 when I started building my Fakey doo I had no other choice other than to purchase the real deal. That was not possible at the time as they were still quite expensive and just beyond my reach. I never once thought of making it a copy of the real Cobra. I wanted a Hot Rod with that body. That's what I got. I love it.
CS soon after I completed my car started making noises about starting his own replica company. One of his famous comments was " they will be scratching their asses when they see how cheap we can sell them for".. Well I was pretty exited to say the least cause I thought there was a chance that I could buy one of his cars. When he finally did make the reproduction Cobras they were just way beyond the average replica buyers price range.
Needless to say I was scratchin" my ass alright wondering what happened to cheap.
So the point of all this rambling is that if repicas had not been produced SAI would today be nothing more than a foot note in history. I think a lot of the replica entusiasts hold some resentment for not getting credit for carrying the flag for CS. He is what he is today only because of guys like Arntz, Butler and several of the other replica makers....
CS had no interest in these cars what so ever until he saw that they were becoming more popular. Ahaaa! A chance to make a buck. So here we are today at each other over silly differences.
The best thing about this is we all love the real deal and we
all buy what we can afford to get that special feeling you only get in that car regardless of it's origin.
Please understand that I am very happy for all of you that own a real reproduction Shelby. They are wonderfully built cars with the finest components. I never grow tired of looking at them. But as CS says ....Lets give credit where credit is due. (paraphrase) The replica owners and manufacturers got SAI back on the map. So a little acknowledgment to that fact wouldn't hurt.

That's enough rambling.

Firesuit is on and ready for any and all flamers...

Hersh

REAL 1 · #49 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 09:09 AM

Bill: To answer your question we must assume some CSX owners feel they are above others by virtue of their car. You obviously feel they do based on whatever.

I know I don't feel that way. Other CSX owners I know don't either. Can't speak for all of them though. No problem there. Right?

I think the problem is in many cases some misconception by those who don't have CSX's that CSX owners merely stating their cars are "Cobras" means they are saying "mine is better than theirs" Thats their hang up.

In fact its owners of non CSX that make multiple arguments why their cars are better than CSXs- stronger chasis, better suspension, yaddy yaddy yaddy....Thats seems to be accepted.

Would they be as upset if the CSX was an original and the owner said its a Cobra? Why is it different that its not an original but a new CSX?

Does the fact that its a Cobra make it better? Does the fact a CSX owners says its a Cobra mean he is saying "mine is better than yours"? No. I don't think so. I thnk the answer is in the fact that those that feel it means "mine is better than yours" are usually the most vocal in arguing against the new CSX being acknowledged as a Cobra. Why. Sour grapes maybe? Yeah. I think so.

I hope this answers your question.

Great Asp · #50 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 10:10 AM

Evan,

If the guys who own Cobras made by Shelby in the 60's won't let you park next to them and get a picture taken, I want you to know you can park next to my Superformance anytime to have as many pictures taken as you want.

I don't care what anybody calls it (my car). I just am pissed that CS attacks the replica industry, when (as Evan points out too often) they do not even make the same car. I would rather marvel at the SAI cars, than have them remind me of the guy that built them.

Eric

REAL 1 · #51 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 10:33 AM

Eric: Thanks. It would be great to park next to you at the DVSF so we can shoot the breeze.

Don't worry. When they take a group picture of the new CSX 4000's at the next SAAC I'll make sure none of those old CSX's sneaks in for the photo.

BLACKJACK · #52 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 11:06 AM

GEEEZZZ - - - - -

THIS GOES ON, AND ON, AND ON - - - -

LET'S JUST CONSIDER IT ONE OF THE "GREAT MYSERIES OF LIFE" AND JUST BE DONE WITH IT.

I REALLY LOVE MY CARS - - I REALLY LOVE EVANS CAR MORE THAN MINE - - I REALLY LOVE A CSX 3XXX MORE THAN EVANS.

WHY THE HELL CAN'T WE FOCUS ON THE SIMILARITIES INSTEAD OF GETTING LOST IN THE QUAGMIRE OF PETTY DIFFERENCES ???

THE INTELLECTUALITY OF THIS DEBATE HAS LONG SINCE BEEN LOST IN THE DUST OF "PERSONALITY VS. PERSONALITY".

THIS DISCUSSION SEEMS TO HAVE, LONG AGO, CROSSED THE BOUNDRIES OF REASON AND LOGIC AND MATTERS OF OUR CARS. IT APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN REDUCED TO A PI$$ING CONTEST BETWEEN PEOPLE WHO OBVIOUSLY DO NOT LIKE OR RESPECT EACH OTHER VERY MUCH.

IN MY MANY (READ AS "MANY") YEARS ON THIS PLANET I HAVE FOUND THAT WHEN PERSONALITIES CLASH FOR THE SAKE OF CLASHING THE BEST (AND QUITE PROBABLY ONLY) REASONABLE SOLUTION IS TO SIT DOWN TOGETHER AND GET "KNEE WALKING, ARM SWINGIN', COMODE HUGGIN' DRUNK". MAGICALLY, GOOD BOOZE - IN ABUNDANT QUANTITIES - SEEMS TO DISOLVE DIFFENCES IN PERSONALITIES ON A MOLECULAR LEVEL.

HAVING SAID ALL THAT - - I'LL VOLUNTEER TO BE THE BAR TENDER.

AIN'T NOBODY GONNA CONVINCE NOBODY OF NOTHIN' THIS WAY ANY WAY.

LET'S JUST ENJOY OUR CARS AND EACH OTHERS COMPANY. THE DIFFERENCES IN OUR CARS AND OUR PERSONALITIES SHOULD BE CELEBRATED NOT RIDICULED.

NOW - PLEASE - LET'S TAKE A BREAK FROM THIS STUFF.

Y'ALL (AND I MEAN ALL) HAVE A REALLY GREAT DAY,

BLACKJACK

Roscoe · #53 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 11:11 AM

can we start a sb v bb thread again?

Roscoe

CSX 4039 · #54 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 11:28 AM

If you spent 25k on a used FFR with a Mustang II- you got a great car for the money.
If you spent 45k for a SPF- you got a great car for the money.
If you spent 65k for an ERA- you got a great car for the money.
If you spent 95k for a Kirkham- you got a great car for the money.
If you spent 120k for an aluminum SAI- you got a great car for the money.
If you spent 200k for a CSX 2000- you got a great car for the money.
If you spent 450k for a CSX 3000- you got a great car for the money.
Apples are red. Oranges are orange. Grapes are purple. While all are round, tasty fruit, they are surprisingly hard to compare
with each other.
If you spent 150k on an FFR- contact your attorney.
If you spent 30k on an SAI- contact the D.A..

BLACKJACK · #55 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 11:39 AM

BRETT - - -

GOOD JOB !! THAT ABOUT SPELLS IT ALL OUT.

ANYTHING BEYOND THAT IS "PI$$ONALITIES".

Y'ALL HAVE A REALLY GREAT DAY,

BLACKJACK

Rich · #56 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 11:41 AM

Great post Brett. Everyone should copy this and next time the real -vs- unreal subject comes up, post it again and again until the thread dies.

Rich

Jamo · #57 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 11:48 AM

Brett--on da money!

Somebody close this thread--the fat lady just sang!

DAVID GAGNARD · #58 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 12:26 PM

AMEN------JAMO

SERPENT · #59 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 02:37 PM

Is there a 'vette replica or boxster replica forum I can join without actually owning one?
Can't wait for warm weather to dispense with this pc crap and find some non- cobra adversaries.
SERPENT

rdorman · #60 (**permalink**) 01-20-2003, 03:02 PM

I am glad somebody started a thread about those baboons! I was shocked by the number of errors they made. Guess I just know the American iron better then they do. If they would have just opened there eyes sometimes then they would have known the answer to some of their confusion.

I have never watched the auction before. But I watched nine hours of it. Couldn't take my eyes off of it. Would like to go! Mistakes and all. Great car 'show' and the excitement of the sale, the human drama!

I took offense when they refered to the Replica market as 'Tupperware'. But I was REAL proud to see the continuation car take top dollar so far in the auction. Not to mention the other Shelby's. Loved the Cobra 'disco ball' too. Very cool. I guess I shouldn't be so upset, Tupperware does make a fine product!

Knock-off, OK. Replica, cool. Kit Car, mensa, mensa (only because the general public thinks that it was slapped on a VW or some thing, so depends on the source and context). But Tupperware! I hate this whole real, original, mines better, must be this way period, snobs period, run and cover your badges crap.

We are a bunch of certifiable car nuts who love the Cobra and will do what we can to get a piece of the whole Cobra lore. Every time I turn the key, I will thank the maker for the builders of Tupperware.