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01-20-2003, 02:24 PM
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Re 351 windsor block number
Guys,
I know this has been on before but I can't find the thread. A friend of mine has a 351 windsor motor that he wants to get some parts for and we don't know the correct year for sure. The numbers by the starter are D4AE-6015-AA5. I have a partial breakdown but the parts store doesn't agree. My breakdown says it is a 1974 Galaxie Engine and I don't think they made Galaxies in 1974 but am not sure. I am pretty sure the D4 means 1974. If it helps the water pump hose to the bottom outlet of the radiator is on the right side or passenger side. The parts man said the water pump has to be on the left hand side and I know they don't all go out the left hand side as my stroker doesn't. I showed it to the parts man and was told it isn't even a Windsor block and I know for a fact it is. Anyway it would be much appreciated if someone could give me the correct breakdown on this number or a link where I can find it so we can be sure.
Thanks in advance,
Ron
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01-20-2003, 02:32 PM
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Maybe its a cleveland. Not sure what year they quit making them. My ex brother in law had a cleveland in a 72 Galaxie. Jim
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01-20-2003, 02:43 PM
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Jim,
It is definately a Windsor block. Cleveland heads are different and the valve covers in a Cleveland have 8 bolts instead of six. I know that my stroker was a 351 Windsor block but haven't looked under it to see just what the numbers are on it. Thanks for the try.
Ron
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01-20-2003, 03:07 PM
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Parts guys
Ron,
Auto parts counter guys are real good at picking up parts and ringing up your credit card. If they knew anything about auto parts they would be auto mechanics.
Sorry but I don't know part numbers either.
Cranky
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01-20-2003, 03:14 PM
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Cranky,
I have came to that conclusion. I hate to go to a parts store around here any more. If you can't take a part with you it is almost impossible to find anyone in these psrts stores that can help you at all. I do know that the Windsors did have water pumps that came out on the right side because my stroker does but the guys at Canton, Ohio that built it just toild me to ask for gaskets etc. for a 1962-1976 Windsor. I believe that Ron ( Computer Works) has a breakdown or link. Thanks for trying. Have a great day.
Ron
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01-20-2003, 03:33 PM
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01-20-2003, 03:52 PM
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Roscoe,
Thanks a ton for the link. I just went out and made a printed copy and will take it to the parts guy tomorrow. I know one of you guys had this link and now I have it in my records.
Ron
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01-20-2003, 06:00 PM
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It's a 1974 Block.
C9 = 1969
D1 = 1971
D2 = 1972
D3 = 1973
D4 = 1974
so on and so forth
go to www.cehighperformance.com for further information.
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01-20-2003, 06:18 PM
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Ron61;
You have a 351-W block cast in 1974 peroid......The water pump outlet means nothing...I have an aluminum water pump from a 1965 289 Mustang on my 351-W.Been on there since 1996 and has been working just fine. The outlet is on the opposite side as the 351-W,water pumps from as early as 65 will fit or interchange on all 289's,302's,&351-W's....
A lot of small block parts will interchange and most "parts guys" don't have a clue what will and won't work... While junk yard hunting I have seen at least three times,a 302 with one original head and the other from an early 351-W.Car runs fine,how I have no idea,these two heads have different combustion chamber size as well as valve sizes...I guess the poor guy got what he could afford to keep his old car going....
David
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01-20-2003, 06:19 PM
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Meangrenny,
Thanks for the other link. I have now got a print out of it and between the two I think our small block problem with the parts people will be over. I have 17 pages of the codes and breakdowns bor the big block FE engines and now that I have these for the small blocks maybe our little bunch won't have to fight and spend so much time arguing with some of the parts people. It is frustrating to stand at the counter with a part and have a parts sales person tell you there is no such thing. Example, the right side water pump. They don't exist for the 351 Windsor and mine can't possibly be right. Many thanks for all the help guys.
Ron
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