Search Warrants and All - Page 4

sfry · #61 (**permalink**) 03-10-2003, 09:30 PM

cobrap51d-
I just finished the Registration on my CSX under SB100. Iwill have to say that it did only take 3 weeks. I could have done it in two but I was out of town. In my dealings with the DMV,CHP and Bar I found them to be most professional. I did have all my docs in order and it went very smooth. I have to praise SB100 for what it has done for us. Lets just pray that SB708 does not pass!

Shannon

petek · #62 (**permalink**) 03-10-2003, 09:58 PM

Cobrap51d,
Thanks for bringing real data to the forum.

Sounds like you folks in California have got an "out" via SB100.

Best of luck!

Jamo · #63 (**permalink**) 03-10-2003, 11:39 PM

Shannon

Hope the folks on this side of Pacheco know what they're doing--I'll be going through the process in a few weeks.

Chaplin · #64 (**permalink**) 03-11-2003, 05:37 AM

Cobrap51d-
Did they telll you exactly what they were investigating? For instance, were they looking for stolen cars that may have had their titles washed or were looking to nab honest replica honors who used TU to short cut CA's DMV regs when registering their cars?. In my mind, there is a huge difference.

What did the 3 CHP officers that showed up at your house want to know about your 1965 Ford? What questions did they ask? Specifics would be helpful.

Thanks for your input,
Mike

cobrap51d · #65 (**permalink**) 03-11-2003, 08:10 AM

Chaplin,

They were only interested in my title and the process taken to license my car. Once they were aware of the fact that I was not the original owner they were basically done. I gave them the bill of sale and showed them the current registration. They were glad to see that I paid tax on the full purchase price. One of 19 people they are investigating did not pay the full tax and may have some issues with that. Their message to me was clear. They are investigating Titles Unlimited and WE don't have anything to worry about.

We in California now have a new approach that we can use to license cars. My suggestion is to use it.

Jake · #66 (**permalink**) 03-11-2003, 08:33 AM

Well said Steve C. and Flatliner. I also am a L.E. Officer and hate to see such negative chat on an otherwise wonderful forum. As for having 5 officers to serve the warrant, that sounds just about right to me. Jake

Mr.Fixit · #67 (**permalink**) 03-11-2003, 08:55 AM

One day, when going home in the early afternoon, there was a cop car next door. Then another op car, then a motorcycle, eventually there were five police officers and then an animal control truck. Why were there so many LEO's, because a stray dog jumped into the neighbor's pool and was swimming laps. None of the five cops did anything, finally when the animal control officer approached the dog in the pool, the dog jumped out of the pool then jumped the fence and ran away. I still don't know why five cops showed up for that call.

My apartment was searched once. Knock knock, I open the door there are two cops. They asked if I called 911, I said no. Then I leaned against the doorframe and they unholstered their pistols. They quickly informed me that they were going to search my home because I called 911, well somebody in my house called 911 and that person might be a hostage that i am keeping. One cop had me sit down in a chair and kept a watch on me, the other searched the house with his pistol in hand. It took maybe three minutes (small apartment) then they re-holstered their pistols and left. Thye only question hey asked was if my pet pythons were poisonous.

Five cops because stray dog in pool. Two cops to seach for a "hostage"

agro1 · #68 (**permalink**) 03-11-2003, 09:03 AM

Fixit - and everyone wonders why we have such problems in California...

Ron61 · #69 (**permalink**) 03-11-2003, 09:22 AM

Hey guy's,

Don't knock the police for doing their jobs. True, they have some jerks just like every other profession but most that I have delt with have been courteous and helpful. And with the way today's society is, you can't blame them for taking extra precautions. I had of all things an automatic dialer short about a year ago and of course it dialed 911 about 4 times. The first thing I knew there were 5 patrol cars at my house. Fortunately I knew most of the cops and we looked together until I tracked it down to the one in the back bedroom. They were more concerned about me being ok than any hostage or something like that and I had my computer on and could see that the call did come from my house. I was pulled over by the CHP while in the Cobra and I was wearing my gun. I just told the officer that I was carrying a gun and that I had permits and he told me don't worry, all I want to do is look at the car. But what if I had just jumped out with the gun showing. He would have had to make an assumption that I was maybe going to try to use it. So don't blame all for what a few are like.

Ron

PJS50 · #70 (**permalink**) 03-11-2003, 09:23 AM

WoW,
This thread ended up giving me more than I bargained for...
One thing that we all should notice is that VPRHUNTER is basically nowhere to be found after the initial post... hmmm
Second of all, I was wondering how all of you get away with registering your Cobras as '65's or '66's or whatever when they are CURRENTLY being made in 2003? Don't get me wrong, I would probably do the same thing if I can here in MI. because of emmisions laws both here and in any other state...This I think is probably part of the issue in the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia (personal comment...I know you guys out there LOVE emisions standards out there...!)
Also, you would think that we all could be a bit friendlier to our local/state law enforcement officers. I wouldn't want their job for a second... Agro, I mean no flames to you either because I, like you, ALWAYS question/doubt authority. The thing is that those 5 CHP officer were not anywhere that they were not TOLD to go in the first place... I am sure they would rather have been doing something else then dealing with what sounds like a fairly iffy investigation that may have been started by some idiot politician who doesn't even know what a Cobra looks like let alone when they were built "for real"...
One last point, guys that drive cars as FAST as the ones that are the topic for discussion on this message board need ALL THE FRIENDS THAT THEY CAN GET IN LAW ENFORCEMENT!!! The last thing that I want (when I finally DO get my car on the road) is a bunch of cops that have a chubby for pulling over Cobra owners...RIGHT?

agro1 · #71 (**permalink**) 03-11-2003, 09:38 AM

Ron61 - And you think a cop pulling you over just to get a look at your car is OK ?? And on top of it all, he ALLOWS you to carry a gun while driving and never questions it ??? Sounds to me like another cop NOT doing his job, but doing what HE thinks is right...The fact that you think that is OK is absurd...

PJS50 - Agreed, the cops serving the search warrant WERE only doing what they were told - THAT IS THE PROBLEM...Some idiot politician has an agenda, thus valuable resources were wasted on a simple NON-VIOLENT case. People with first hand knowledge of these events have TOLD US that it is Titles Unlimited that is being investigated and the indivuduals that were being served were not suspects - THAT requires 5 CHP ???

What is even more disturbing is that most of you guys can't even see this, and would rather be politically correct and come to the defense of the cops and L.E.O's that support such rampent misuse of state funds and resources.

Chaplin · #72 (**permalink**) 03-11-2003, 09:45 AM

Cobrap51d-
You may not be able to answer this, but were you able to determine if they would have busted your chops if you were the person who initially used TU to title the car? Do you think being the second owner in the chain of title saved you from further investigation?

Feel free to email me directly if you prefer. mchaplyn@aol.com

Thanks.

ps
Where or where did vprhunter go?

cobrap51d · #73 (**permalink**) 03-11-2003, 09:52 AM

If I wanted to find out about what is going on in California and lincesing my cobra, I might come to a clubcobra to do some research. If I started reading this thread I would probaly give up on this place as being a usefull resource since the topic at this point is cops. Why not start a new topic, rather than making it difficult for people who are really concerned or interested in the initial topic. If you are interested in what happens with me as a witness and the search warrant that was issued you can send me an email 678@myspf.com, when the case is complete I will summarize and post on clubcobra.

agro1 · #74 (**permalink**) 03-11-2003, 09:54 AM

Chaplin - Personally, I don't think they COULD have done anything to the current owner unless they had evidence that he tried to defraud the state when registering his car in CA. The state of CA is only concerned with getting paid guys - plain and simple...The fact that Cobrap51d was the unsuspecting buyer of a car whose title was "washed" is not the issue; the issue is making sure it is titled properly under SB100 and paying the appropriate taxes. And I'm sure the State Attorney Gen. will be going after TU in other states...Why ??? Casue California is loosing $ in vehicle registration.

Ron61 · #75 (**permalink**) 03-11-2003, 10:00 AM

argo1,

The cop did not ALLOW me to carry a gun while driving a car. I have a permit to carry one any time anywhere in this state. If that offends you then so be it. I have been pulled over in another car I have for the very same reason and no it did not bother me. As for me being absurb I have been called much worse. And just what do you think he should have questioned about me carrying a gun ? Please explain what you mean by the cop doing what HE THINKS IS RIGHT.

Ron

Excaliber · #76 (**permalink**) 03-11-2003, 10:02 AM

cobrap51d

The issue of licensing registration has been in many threads, the theme usually has been advice AGAINST using such companies as Titles Unlimited. Which because of this thread was certainly sound advice!

It is to bad this IMPORTANT topic got "hi-jacked" into a ridiculous dialogue about the "cop" angle.

Very interesting that they are looking for the ORIGNAL owner. Now thats encouraging to those looking for a used Cobra!

Ernie

Turk · #77 (**permalink**) 03-11-2003, 10:03 AM

I will echo cobrap51d's request.

There are many here in California and elsewhere who are glued to their monitors for details of last Saturday's events.
If you have first hand information, you were involved directly or even indirectly, and feel we can all benefit from your personal experiences please post it here.

If there was ever a thread that should not be thread-jacked this is it!

I am afraid some may be reluctant to post fearing the tangetial discussions.

Let's kleep those on the other threads. There are a few of those going on as we speak, and leave this one for some facts that may be informative and helpful to all of us who are searching for information on the subject.

TURK
Club Cobra

agro1 · #78 (**permalink**) 03-11-2003, 10:08 AM

Ron61 - Firstly you only SAID you had permit to carry. Second, did the cop ask you for the permit or take your word for it ? Third, if he pulled you over "to get a closer look at the car", as you stated, he was wasting your time and my tax dollars. THAT is what I meant when I said "what he thinks is right". He was doing what HE WANTED and not doing his job - Typical of cops these days.

Ron61 · #79 (**permalink**) 03-11-2003, 10:19 AM

Apologies to all for my post about cops. Turk, you are absolutely correct and I should have kept my mouth shut. I just hate to see all get blamed for what a few do. But that is off on a tangent that didn't belong in this post and once again I apologize to all involved and to Agro1 for upsetting him.

Ron

Excaliber · #80 (**permalink**) 03-11-2003, 10:20 AM

Argo1,,,,,take it up on another thread PLEASE. Your continually side tracking a VERY IMPORTANT issue about registration of Cobras. This not about YOUR personal cop problems here.

Ernie