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View Poll Results: Shoud 4027 be the template for all the glass and aluminum cars for detail
Yes with no changes 6 25.00%
yes with non original color changes 0 0%
no, customers can do it wrong if they like 18 75.00%
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Old 04-11-2003, 12:22 AM
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Steve........

That's pretty much the same story I heard, as my car was built by Shelby in 1999. The aluminum bodies were possible, though for a big price at the time. I also feel very fortunate to have a 100% Shelby roller, as I understand that is no longer the case. Don't tell Evan though. We'll give him grief on another thread.

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I believe there was only one car with an earlier serial number that got an aluminum body. It was from Kimmons I believe. I heard it cost a ton [/b]
Sunshine Kid- It did. I have the itemized leger. If you would like to know more about it, give me a holler.
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Do you have the bill for the aluminum car that pre-dates 4027?
I would love to see it posted.
Is yours aluminum? If so, Is it Kirkham, Kimmons, Kemper or Leahey?
By the initials of the first 3 aluminum suppliers, please don't anyone assume there is a connection to the guys that seem to have a lot of meetings.
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If I'm not mistaken, this company was used for some earlier cars.

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Do you have the bill for the aluminum car that pre-dates 4027?--NO
I would love to see it posted.
Is yours aluminum? -YES. If so, Is it Kirkham, Kimmons, Kemper or Leahey?- KIMMINS
By the initials of the first 3 aluminum suppliers, please don't anyone assume there is a connection to the guys that seem to have a lot of meetings. CALL 'EM SPECIAL KKK!!
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Panel Craft was the company contracted only be HRE to build aluminum cars based off a buck made from the glass 4000 shell.
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Kimmins is the right answer. In my opinion, they make the best.
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Kimmins is the right answer. In my opinion, they make the best.
I like it, too. I can't take credit for it, as I am the third owner. It was a ballsy move for the original owner to sink that much into one. He took a bath when he sold it. ( I hope he enjoyed it)! The second owner took a lesser shower, as I probably would right now, if I sold it. From what I hear, it is more a continuation car with a 4000 serial number- a new style Shelby frame with a original style unaligned aluminum body- warts and all. I sure would like to have a brake upgrade, though! (Can you say "run away horses"!!) I have heard that a Kimmins continuation car was used to splash the mold for the fiberglass 4000 cars. Is this true, can you confirm or rebutt that? Just curious. If I did want to get different brakes, what would you recommend, and how much $??
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I raced on the original brakes and had no problem. For the street I suggest you get a new set of original rotors. Have them gas slotted only. Not cross drilled. Then have the cryogenically treated.
Then get a set of pads from Porterfield 800-537-6842. Your pads are too hard and need to be softer.
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4039 post-dates 4027 by s/n

my records show that CSX3178 was used as the splash for the CSX4000 'glas cars
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Would you publish how much the original owner had in your car? You don't have to tell us what you paid if you don't want.
Just curious what a Kimmins project really cost the end user.
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Steve, where did you get that original Stant radiator cap?
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The car has the crappy original cap.
I only used it if I had to show the car.
Those caps are too light for a real race motor and boil it over too easy.
A higher pressure cap like the Racing Stant 19-21 brings up the boiling point which is aht you want.
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PS The car also came with the following....
Original Oil breather cap- another item that is useless
Original LeMans 780 Carb-Useless
Original Transistorized Distributor, Amplifyer and wiring - useless
and a host of other show quality 1965 original INTERCHANGABLE items that were prettier than functional.
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my records show that CSX3178 was used as the splash for the CSX4000 'glas cars

I know that 4039 was not the mold, as glass cars pre-dated it. But Sp K told me once that it was a Kimmins continuation car that was used as the mold. Just wondering. I guess that fits the discription as 3178 is a continuation car, no? Was 3178 body by Kimmins, or, Body by Fisher?
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I was told McClusky or Kimmins had something to do with the mold.
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Would you publish how much the original owner had in your car? You don't have to tell us what you paid if you don't want.
Just curious what a Kimmins project really cost the end user.
Sure, why not...$119,367.94 in 1998. All finish out authentic correct stuff. A clone of 3056 except for dual 715 cfm Holleys instead of turkey pan.
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. I guess that fits the discription as 3178 is a continuation car, no? Was 3178 body by Kimmins, or, Body by Fisher?
CSX3178 was a real original street car....body by AC
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Brett:

Late to this, but was your car offered for sale for a while at House Of Cobras in Orange, California?

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Brett:

Late to this, but was your car offered for sale for a while at House Of Cobras in Orange, California?

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yes, before I bought it.
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