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06-20-2003, 03:15 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2002
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Real: All Cobras built at Thames Ditton in the 1960s.
Cars exported to the USA had CSX chassis numbers
AC badged cars for the UK market had COB chassis numbers
AC badged cars for overseas markets (apart from the USA) had COX chassis numbers.
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06-20-2003, 03:16 PM
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Join Date: May 1999
Location: Tyler, TX U.S.A.,
TX
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA, Ford 428 SCJ
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Even if AC added the CSX prefix, they still wouldn't let you in the group photo at the next SAAC event. (just ask any CSX4000 owner)
But wait, what if Factory Five bought Gensing Forrest........I mean SAI........I mean Shelby Inc........or whatever it is..........
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06-20-2003, 03:17 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: God's country,
ME
Cobra Make, Engine: Original ERA 427sc, Powered by Gessford
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Replica is not a dirty word.
"If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning."
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06-20-2003, 03:22 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Grapevine,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Former Owner/Builder of KMP142 427 Sideoiler, Tunnel Wedge, Aluminum heads, etc.
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All good points....
Actually, for accuracy's sake:
Same tools? Not exactly. The AC's alloy body was then and is today hand formed using the traditional English wheel, dollys and slapping files. The Kirkham furnished CSX body is formed using a combination modern metal pressing techniques, then hand finished. Advantage? No, just ......different.
Same dimensions? Not exactly. The AC factory still owns and uses most of the original bucks from the 60's. The Kirkham furnished CSX body was formed off a pattern taken off CSX 3104, a wide hipped street car modified to S/C specs. Accurate nose dimensions could be suspect, as 3104 was involved in a front end collision and then repaired prior to the dimensions being taken. If you view the nose of a CSX glass car and a CSX alloy car, you will notice a slight difference, with the glass cars' intake being more elliptical, more symmetrical and truer to the original, unmolested cars coming out of AC in the 60's.
Different People? Hard to say without viewing AC's employment records, though entirely possible someone who worked on the cars 40 years ago is still there in some capacity. Safe to say that whomever is there now learned their wonderful craft from one of those old metal benders.
I agree with the general premise that without Shelby there would never have been a Cobra, but the same applies to AC Cars, don't you think?
Bud 
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06-20-2003, 03:23 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: New Jersey,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra CSX4206 aluminum body, original 1965 NASCAR 427 SO, Dual quads.
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Mike: I'll be around this weekend. I'll be home finishing my Arc. 
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06-20-2003, 03:30 PM
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Join Date: May 2003
Location: Plano, TX,
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06-21-2003, 09:15 AM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: The Heart of the Citrus District,
NJ
Cobra Make, Engine: Sold 3047 & 3002 in 2012
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What's the difference?
When I was in the 3rd grade, my math teacher caught me snoozing and yelled out..
"Hey Steve...
What's the difference between 2/8ths and 3/8ths?
I replied...
"That's what I say, sweetheart....
What's the difference"!!!
Hey Captain!! Are they going to build the Mamba?
I like the idea for a street/track car.
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06-21-2003, 01:25 PM
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I would have to say that a "real" Cobra is a Shelby Cobra built in the 1960's and the Shelby Cobra's built today.
I would have to think on the AC situation, same car built on the same equipment from the same company that made the original "roller" chassis? I guess they would be a "real" AC Cobra.
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