Slightly OT: Ebay and Bid tampering

[excelguru]

I agree with Bill.

I have also been on the receiving end of a few siphoning emails, myself. I was recently bidding on a Great Dane riding mower and was solicited by a three people who (supposedly) had the same mower for so much less money (well if that's the case, why don't you put it on eBay yourself, dumbass).

When I asked the first one to send a pic of the mower, he simply sent me the pic of the item that I was currently bidding on! (It was obviously the same image.) I immediately recognized this as a scam to swindle me out of important information or money. I reported it to eBay without hesitation, as I did for the following two siphons that I received that that same week.

With the exception of such asses, eBay is wonderful.

By the way, Bill, that's a beautiful car!

[RACERAL]

What the boy did was wrong and he does have a post saying he was sorry for what he had done.....

[Menace]

What the little 17 year old punk ass needs to do is pay for Bills and probably Phil M's listing fee...period .... Good ole fashion back stabbin by a person who you know is intolerable.... He knew exactly what he was doing

[TomH]

If you go to the other forum, you'll see the post where Eric acknowledged the error and apologized. From this point on, I hope this thread can go mano é mano.

[Doug I]

and, if I'm reading it correctly, offered to pay MrM's and Phil M's eBay fees. If so good :-)

[KobraKarl]

Bill, I completely agree with your frustration with this guy , if he was truly only looking too romance a buyer who wasnt going to end up with your contemporary, he could have at least waited untill the auction had ended.

good luck, you have the car I'm trying to turn mine into.

KK

[Rebel1]

If the "friend" has apologised..offered to pay fees..then it seems friendships have endured...good stuff

Isn't this what we all want..friends are human and make mistakes too...if we insist on them doing the right thing as a friend..then we should be friendly enough to forgive them when they admit they were wrong.

Hey!!... My first wife has heaps of faults..and I even forgive her for having so many

I just gotta keep referring to her as " The first wife" to keep her on her toes.

This should be the end

You all take care

[Doug I]

as long as she doesn't refer to you as her 'live husband' :-)

[skippy]

Originally posted by Rebel1


Bill..If he is, as you say, considered to be a friend, then give him a call.

It may not be as it appears.

But...If it is as you suspect, then you may have lost a friend.


You all take care

Bill as my aussie mate says it.

Thats what i would have done. I find e-mails intrusive you have to get hold of him on the phone and confont what is true, i swear from there you will decide what is correct.

Good mate.

Skippy.

[Excaliber]

Sizzler,,,,at a trade show or a farmers market you pay for your "booth", like all your competitors did.

I don't like that guy who parks "just outside" the selling arena and snags customers on their way out or on their way in. He didn't pay a fee, he has no business snagging customers from the farmers market or trade show people, or in this case, e-bay!

He's a scab, for lack of a better word. I won't cover his actions with talk about "free market" blah blah blah, it aint free! Someone paid to set up their booth, the scab didn't. He needs to get his truck totally AWAY from the "market area".

Ernie

[Go Hard or Go Home]

My question here is: If Eric would have waited until Bill's auction ended THEN emailed the bidders that DIDN'T win, would that have been okay?

[mrmustang]

As long as the auction is over, and those bidders are not bidding on any other currently running Cobra auctions, then yes, you could indeed contact people and point them towards your currently running auction (again on Ebay). However (again, my writing style), if your trying to solicit them to buy your car and it is not currently listed on Ebay, then again, that goes against their terms and conditions.


Bill S.

Originally posted by Go Hard or Go Home


My question here is: If Eric would have waited until Bill's auction ended THEN emailed the bidders that DIDN'T win, would that have been okay?

[Rebel1]

Maybe it's the Aussie way to have personal contact with the "friend" ... maybe got something to do with our convict background

Many people have trouble conveying their emotions/ feelings in the written word. Also I prefer to judge the reaction of the "friend" in person. You can tell straight away if the "friend" is indeed remorseful or just pulling ya leg. Too easy to say sorry in an email.

We often see on this forum how the written word can be mis-interpreted by someone else all because the author wasn't all that eloquent.

Eyeballing the friend is better still. After it's all over you either sit down and suck some beers or ya into the first aid kit patching yaself up.

You all take care

[Roscoe]

So Bill,

I guess Les is suggesting you drive up to CT and beat the bejesus out of him.

Roscoe

[Sizzler]

Originally posted by Excaliber


Sizzler,,,,at a trade show or a farmers market you pay for your "booth", like all your competitors did.

I don't like that guy who parks "just outside" the selling arena and snags customers on their way out or on their way in. He didn't pay a fee, he has no business snagging customers from the farmers market or trade show people, or in this case, e-bay!

He's a scab, for lack of a better word. I won't cover his actions with talk about "free market" blah blah blah, it aint free! Someone paid to set up their booth, the scab didn't. He needs to get his truck totally AWAY from the "market area".

Ernie

So all these flyers I find under my windshield wipers for store competitors opening down the street should be illegal?

What about Chinese labor...operating outside US restrictions on labor laws like OSHA and US taxes and enviromental laws and snagging US manufacturers (customers). Shouldn't that be illegal?

I read through the posts on ffcobra, and here and came to the conclusion that even though the average age over there is probably decades younger than habitue's here, that they're actually showing a more mature attitude towards this 'issue'.

[mrmustang]

Sizzler,

What Eric did was tamper with an ongoing auction. Would he like it if anyone did it to his when it was up on Ebay? I think not. Why, because it is moraly wrong (and against Ebays user policy)..................


We have all beaten this issue to death, the only one who seems to be thriving on it is you. Either by now, you get it, or you don't.. From the looks of it, you don't, nor may you ever understand it.



Bill S.

PS: Kind of like me coming in to Kinko's (your place of employment) and going around to each and every customer currently in the store and telling them that the folks at Staples across the way are having a giant sale on everything that you guys have, but at a lesser price...Not quite the same as a flyer, but it does come across just the same as what Eric did. Think about it...........

[Turk]

Actually, if you own a dry cleaners and someone sticks flyers under the windshields of your customers cars-IN YOUR PARKING LOT- that is indeed illegal.

I don't know too many malls, or strip malls that allow windshield stuffing.

Doing so in front of dry cleaners store for similar services offered by someone else working out of their house or another business three blocks away is in bad taste and more than in violation of some code.

What happened to MrMustang certainly violates at least one code. Code of decency.

Sizzler, you are pretty much alone on this one, and the chances of you being wrong is more likely than not.

TURK

[Roscoe]

I just can't understand why some people don't get it. There is a real difference between healthy competition and back stabbing. Maybe it's a character thing.

Try this:

I'm selling my house by myself. I schedule an open house on Sunday and place ads in local papers. Come Sunday I have 25 prospective buyers in my house that I'm entertaining. My neighbor comes in and starts passing flyers around advertising his house for 35k less. I defenestrate him.

GET IT?
Roscoe

[Jim Colman]

I defenestrate him.

Is that the same as giving him a "noogie"???

Back on topic, Eric apoligised, he knows he was wrong, end of subject.

Cheers
Jim

[Roscoe]

Main Entry: de·fen·es·tra·tion
Pronunciation: (")dE-"fe-n&-'strA-sh&n
Function: noun
Etymology: de- + Latin fenestra window
Date: 1620
: a throwing of a person or thing out of a window
- de·fen·es·trate /(")dE-'fe-n&-"strAt/ transitive verb