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07-30-2003, 10:23 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2000
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Cobra Make, Engine: RCR SLC, Graziano 6-spd, LS3
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Sizzler,
So you think it'd be OK to attend a Barrett-Jackson auction and during the bidding on a car, stand up and yell "don't bid anymore on that car, I've got one in the parking lot that I'll sell for less." I guarantee you'd get shown the door very quickly!
Pete
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07-30-2003, 10:27 AM
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Location: Fairfield, NJ, USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: A & C, 351W, Tremec 3550. Exiled Member: Club Cranky
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Pete,
I figured it out: It's the Bozone Layer
BOZONE LAYER, n: The substance surrounding Wahoos that prevents the truth from penetrating. Those afflicted with this slimy layer can be obnoxious and pretentious, but are harmless in person - especially on the field. The bozone layer shows little sign of breaking down at any time in the future.
Roscoe
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"Crisis occurs when women and cattle get excited!"....James Thurber
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07-30-2003, 12:25 PM
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Ya know whats kinda funny Roscoe, when you have an open house everyone signs their name and the Realtor shows all of those people other homes.
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07-30-2003, 12:26 PM
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That is a pretty devious play for a 17 year old kid!!
Since he's selling, maybe he will never be heard from again...
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07-30-2003, 12:33 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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If you think that everyone who signs their name in an open house book gets the agent showing the house to show them others, boy are you in for a surprise. 95% of the people coming through the open house already have other agents working for them.............2% might have interest in the home they are actually seeing, and the other 3% are the nosey neighbors interested in comparing it with their own homes not yet up on the market..........
Bill S.
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Originally posted by BlueRooster
Ya know whats kinda funny Roscoe, when you have an open house everyone signs their name and the Realtor shows all of those people other homes.
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07-30-2003, 12:34 PM
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When you sign up with the realtor, you don't have them agree NOT to show or sell other properties.
Terrible example!
Here is a better example that may help.
If one of the people during the "OPEN HOUSE" said they would like to make an offer, and the realtor said there was a better one than the house they are now in, and that the customer shouldn't make an offer and they should look at that one instead, I think you could probably sue the realtor for malpractice.
TURK
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07-30-2003, 12:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by mrmustang
Sizzler,
What Eric did was tamper with an ongoing auction. Would he like it if anyone did it to his when it was up on Ebay? I think not. Why, because it is moraly wrong (and against Ebays user policy)..................
We have all beaten this issue to death, the only one who seems to be thriving on it is you. Either by now, you get it, or you don't.. From the looks of it, you don't, nor may you ever understand it.
Bill S.
PS: Kind of like me coming in to Kinko's (your place of employment) and going around to each and every customer currently in the store and telling them that the folks at Staples across the way are having a giant sale on everything that you guys have, but at a lesser price...Not quite the same as a flyer, but it does come across just the same as what Eric did. Think about it...........
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Have thought about it; more thought it it deserves.
I have no problem with someone standing on the street outside of Kinko's handing out flyers for a similiar service provider down the street. It's a public street. Same as I have no problem with the same type of people handing out discount coupons outside little hole-in-the-wall restruants(sp?) for lunch-counters further down the street. This is America, and frankly, living/working in the big city, I see it every day, really, and I just put it down to free market economics and free trade.
As for Open Houses. Sure, why not. If I'm a buyer (an important distinction in this particular case), I'd certainly like to be made aware of other properties for sale, especially if they seem to be of the same class and near the same location...do you object to your neighbor having a FOR SALE sign posted on his front lawn while you're having an open house??? Get real.
And just what did "Eric" send to your bidders? According to the copy of the email that I believe you yourself posted on ffcobra, all he did was say that if they didn't win the auction for your car, he had a car which appearance-wise was similiar to yours, then proceeded to list details on his car. No detraction from your vehicle, a very respectful email. Just a note that other cars for sale in the same class of vehicle were out there. Personally, for a 19 year-old kid, he seems to have behaved more honorably and maturely than MrMustang. He's apologized for something I don't think he needed to apologize for, offered to pay your listing fees when I don't think he needed to. He's the grownup, you're some kind of attention-diva.
Let it drop.
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07-30-2003, 01:05 PM
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Sizzler,
Face facts, you just don't get what the rest of us have been trying to say. I'll let it drop if you will.
Bill S.
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07-30-2003, 01:17 PM
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Look like Roscoe nailed it:
It's the "Bozone Layer".
Ernie
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07-30-2003, 01:37 PM
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Sizzler-
The concept you are not grasping is that "Eric" did not do this in a free market place or on a public street-- if he had I would agree with you. However, MrM entered into a contract with e-bay (a private for profit company) and paid the fee to list his car, and Eric (who apparently also wants to sell his car) serepitiously solicited bidders away from MrM's auction. In effect, Eric was benefiting from and interfering with MrM's contract with e-bay and potential bidders.
Put another way, this is one of the classic problems of economics known as the "free rider" problem. Why should Eric (or anyone else for that matter) ever pay the fee to list their cars on e-bay, when they can wait for others to do so and then solicit bidders away from those auctions and essentially get a "free ride" off the efforts and expenses of others. Creates all sorts of economic problems.
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"do you object to your neighbor having a FOR SALE sign posted on his front lawn while you're having an open house??? Get real."
Again, this is not what happened. To make your analogy work, Eric would have had to have started his own e-bay auction and essentially competeted with MrM's sale, which as we all know, he did not. As someone has already said, the real estate example would be akin to your neighbor coming into your house during your open house and handing out fliers advertising his house for sale at a lower price.
If you really have no problem with that, let me know the next time you go through the trouble and expense of organizing a sale and I'll just bring my stuff over to your place to sell (and oh, by the way, I'll undercut your price too).
defenestrate - I love it. You really do learn new things every day. Thanks Roscoe.
That's my .02. Now it can die. 
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07-30-2003, 04:30 PM
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See..I told ya
That first aid kit would come in handy
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07-30-2003, 05:27 PM
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Rumor has it that CS is monitoring this thread and is planning on using the transcript to bolster his claims for punitive damages against Brock and SPF.
Be very very afraid.
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07-30-2003, 08:59 PM
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Rumor has it that CS has been resold to McDonalds....So, when you go to purchase any of his offerings, they will offer to "super size it" for you for just a few dollars more............Either that, or you'll hear "would you like fries with that CSX4000 series"...............
Bill S.
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07-30-2003, 09:12 PM
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