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Old 08-25-2003, 10:19 PM
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Never...Never stomp on the throttle of your car when behind a slower vehicle. No matter what u think the guy in front will do
races are for side by side stuff. U and I know these cars were number one in acceleration for a production car.
Damn thats scary........LOL
Imagine the buggers would really show you the snobby side when u rearend them and try to explain that one. Damn that would be embarassing to explain. Whiplash and all, I can see two new porsches courtesy of ICBC ( one for each of them)

God this is too funny. These cars are pure intimdation to most competition on the road and for less money. Got to love the grins u get from their passengers,their wives and or girlfriends.
Why rub their nose in it with a race?
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Old 08-25-2003, 10:28 PM
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Well what was I thinkin?

Can't spell , can't wave at a fellow car nut, can't tell if someone wants to GO when they rev their engine. Wouldn't it suck if everyone was like that, wouldn't need a car club EH !

GS- I suppose you idle around in all those cars of yours, might as well trade them for a new bug with the pansy on the dash cause you don't need a V8 to idle around the street.
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High Plains I drive with my brain, not like an 18 year old in a hopped up Mustang. I let it breath when it is appropriate and not when some gold chain is if FRONT of me.

I have read too many threads concerning the ever growing insurance problems Cobra owners face and think it prudent to exercise with a little common sense and caution. What we don't need is higher, or no insurance. Nor do we need the lable of street racers.

The Porsche snob got the best of you and is probably telling his story on another web site. I can hear it now. "Man you should have seen this _ _ _ _ _ _ _ , I blipped my throttle and he jacked his car up, I half throttled it away from the light and he came full bore at my ass. He then made an illegal lane change without looking and just missed me. Too bad, if he had hit me I would have owned his car, his house and everything he earned for the next 20 years." Nuf said.

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Oh $hit. I have a Targa (Same as a Carrera except with a retractable roof) and a CSX.

I'm a double snob!
...this means you are capable of insulting yourself.

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As a long time PCA ,MCA, and SAAC member, I can tell you that there are indeed snobs in each of these organizations. Some of them just don't get it, and never will. Those are the types of folks you want to steer a wide berth around, as they will be the ones who sooner or later will smack up their "toy(s)" and don't care who they take with them................


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PS: For the record, nothing about a Porsche beating a Cobra has shown up on the main PCA website, so most likely, this guy does not even belong to that prestigious group.................
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PS: For the record, nothing about a Porsche beating a Cobra has shown up on the main PCA website, so most likely, this guy does not even belong to that prestigious group................. [/b][/quote]



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HPD for the record I stated that I had owned all of those wonderful cars - I now have a real replica in lieu of the the fine rear engined car that most would kill for.
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I have always prefered the Cobra over the modern day Porsche, but you have to admit, as one car guy to another car guy, they are a work of art (at least some of them are)............Give me a nice early 90's 5spd C4 cabriolet as a daily driver over the Cobra...yet give me the Cobra for everything else...............


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HPD for the record I stated that I had owned all of those wonderful cars - I now have a real replica in lieu of the the fine rear engined car that most would kill for. [/b]
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Just remember a good old one:

Sandy the blonde is working as a handy women, trying to make some bucks with little jobs in the hood. So one day, she comes up to a house, rings the bell and asks if there's something to do. The man says, what would you charge for painting the porch? 50 Bucks, she answered, and he says, ok, go ahead, you find everything you need in the garage. Then he goes back into the house, saying to his wife: this girl ist painting our porch for only 50 bucks, doesnt she recognize its going all around the house?. Half an hour later, Sandy rings again, says ok, im finished, and gets her 50 bucks, and while leaving, says: oh, btw, its not a porsche, its a ferrari!
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I would like to pick up on something that Bob in Ct said, "We Cobra owners should have an organization like the Porsche Club of America (PCA). These guys have more activities than you can shake a stick at. I've driven my 944 at speed on Watkins Glen, New Hampshire Speedway, Pocono, Lime Rock and Mont Tremblant. How many Cobra owners can say that?"

I agree that some Porsche owners act a little "blueblood" Cobra owners need to band together more in joint activities. Porsche facilitates and encourages its owners getting together. Cobras come in many different flavors: manufactured, hand-built, original, replica, etc. We have more in common than our differences. We need to act together more. S/C Cobras were originally built as race cars that could be driven on the street. We need more opportunities to let the cars do what they were built to do.

Some people may only want to show their cars. Some may only want to cruise them. Some may want open track. This applies to both Porsche and Cobra owners. Cobra owners need to unify more and share more of the kinds of activities of Porsche owners.
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Let's see. If I'm given the choice between a late 60's twin turbo whale tail and a Cobra, I'm outta the Cobra so fast I splinter the Momo.
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Have to agree with you about the Porsche guys and their clubs.... We have a road course/dragstrip here in Louisiana and the Viper & Porsche clubs usually have the track rented one saturday a month for each club and the Beemer guys do to.... When they have the track they show up in numbers and really run their cars....

When the guys from the Texas Cobra Club rented the very same track awhile back for two days we managed to have a whopping 10 cars there.... We did have a blast and those that could not come missed a great time....

Wish more Cobra guys would get together for stuff like this,it's a great way to have fun and promote these cars.....

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The guy who bought my Excal (and I bought it back later) was a car "collector". A Rolls Royce (daily driver), a 32 Ford Roadster, a 36 Dodge, and two Porshces one of which was the new boxster.

He was amazed at the reactions he got with the Cobra, the thumbs up, the smiles, etc. He had never seen anything like it with any other car he had owned. The Cobra was his favorite car. He did NOT want to sell it back. He just got tired of my begging and pleading day after day..........

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Default Exactly like the Harley "snobs"...

I always wave if I have time, when I am out on one of my bikes. The European, Italian and Japanese bikers wave back. Most Harley riders act like little children who see that "your toy is badder than mine" or something. My customized V-Max 1200 V-4 www.madmax.com can beat any Harley in a drag race, (stock 1/4 mile is 10.8 sec @124 mph) but it's like the Porsche vs hi-po cobra .. why bother? On the street it's potentially dangerous. I have a good rep with the local gendarmes to keep up. In fact they wave hi and grin.

The street racing is similar to full contact martial arts sparring. I am not worried about hurting my sparring partner, I never have. But there are few people I trust to go full contact with in the ring, and in fact I have taken injuries from unqualified or persons with poor temperaments in the past... meaning they lost their cool (Jeet Kune Do is my "art") It's an easy way to get hurt for no good purpose.

The Harley guys have had their little rears whipped by some 600 cc crotch rocket in the past, (that cost $7,000, is way faster and easily out handles them
It's an inferiority complex. After all, their bikes are slow and cumbersome and overpriced.. the Porsche guys are the same when it comes to facing a real musclecar...they realize a bigger predator has arrived. Enjoy the inherent satisfaction of your reptilian predator and be careful out there.
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Evan if you start a 'Club Snob' I would like to be a charter member

I Love the 911. Ran one in PCA events for a while (first every single time and it was a cab!). Fantastic cars. If I could only own one car and it was between the Cobra and a Porsche, it would be a Porsche. Fortuniatly, I don't have to make that choice!

As far as clubs like PCA, how about SAAC. The differnce seems to be in the number and local availability of the events. But considering the number of Porsches out there and the number of Cobras, it is understandable.

When events are organized for Cobras, seems like the turn out is always a lot less than it could be. Wonder why?

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Last weekend I attended the PCA event at Road Atlanta. I registered to attend with a "Cup Car", and they assumed I meant a Porsche Cup Car, like they race in Grand Am on Speed Channel. Imagine the surprise when I showed up with the "other" kind of "Cup" car, the Winston kind.
Some of them were a bit aprehensive,like shouting " What's up with Ricky Rudd ?" at the driver's meeting, but soon came around to see what was making all the noise, and actually they were very nice by the end of the day. TC told me that snobs have small units and are trying to compensate ( not sure how he did his research ).
By the way, they all thought I was actually Ricky Rudd. I guess they do not watch NASCAR.
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"When events are organized for Cobras, seems like the turn out is always a lot less than it could be. Wonder why?"

Rick, my guess would be the 50 year history of PCA has taught them a few things about staging a successful event. I used to attend a quite a few "driver training" sessions with PCA and they are very good at what they do. There's also a huge difference between a thrashing a finely crafted piece of German machinery close to the edge and flirting with certain death in a 60's tech Cobra (which mine is). I think the average guy with a Cobra would prefer to live to drive it tommorow.

Perry, shame on you for lumping all P-car drivers together.

BiB, I spent about 500 miles behind a hardcore HD rider last weekend and he waved to everything with 2 wheels that went by, and 99.9% waved back.

Sweeping generalizations are rarely accurate. However, if you were to say most Cobra owners are whackos...well, there's a position I could support.

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The Harley guys around here wave to ME when I'm driving the Cobra! Thats never happened in ANY other car I've driven. I guess the Harleys and the Cobras do have something in common?

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Talking The Harley riders do like my cobra

I wonder if they would still grin and give me thumbs up if they knew what my 2 wheeled rides were...

When out on my bike I wave at everyone on 2 or 3 wheels.. but the ONLY bikers that act surly and won't wave back are (98% of) Harley riders.. just seems a bit sad for them, since they are missing out on (understanding or enjoying) some of the best experiences on 2 wheels.
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The Harley guys around here wave to ME when I'm driving the Cobra! Thats never happened in ANY other car I've driven. I guess the Harleys and the Cobras do have something in common?

Ernie
I've had this same experience, too. Most every Harley guy that I pass waves or gives me the thumbs up. Must be the pleasant surprise of encountering a vehicle with pipes louder than theirs...

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I think the reason the Porsche club is so united is that they all purchase from the same manufacturer. We all have different manufacturers and that is why we will always be opinionated against eachother. Lets face it each Cobra is "its own Creation" created by the owner. The Porsche's all have the same creator which leaves much less to insult. If I buy a Turbo Carrera and you buy one, we have the exact car(except for color and maybe a few options). I think as long as each manufacture (Cobra) gets slammed in this forum by that of a "Superior" manufacture we will always feel that way!!
I once saw a Porsche 911 with a VW engine in it that was faster than any Porsche with a 3.3 Turbo. Imagine how the Porshce owners with 3.3 in it will verbally rip that guys ass! Well thats what happens on this site daily! Its all about who'se toys are bigger, better and faster! I liked it better when I would see a Cobra(very rarely) and would get so excited I almost creamed my jeans. I didnt know there were so many manufactureres. I thought they were all from the same place (wherever that was)!
Now that I have an opinion (as does everyone else) I can appreciate them all! I would love a Khirkam, but I wouldnt trade mine for one unless I could keep my Drivetrain. Someone else might think I'm a total idiot for thinking such an abomination! Ye'all get my point??

P.S. My West Coast will beat any of yours, anytime, cause your car sucks!!!!!
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