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Old 10-05-2003, 07:11 PM
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I have a buyer for a car in California. The car has a Pennsylvania "Reconstructed" title. The engine has Webbers, and since this car was originally built in the mid 80s, it also has engine block numbers from the early 70s. Since the 500 SB numbers are gone, does this guy have any chance of getting plates?
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It is my understanding that tho the title is from the 80's, the prospective buyer can "smog" the car based up on the vintage of the block. It is also my understanding that blocks from pre-74 are exempt from bi-annual smog checks. Further, it is my understanding that this is how replicas were titled before SB100 existed.

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Prior to the SB100 method, out of state cars are subject to BAR inspection, $300 out of state fee, and a smog-check on the tredmill if the model year of the vehicle is after 1973; regardless if it is special construction or reconstructed. The BAR would follow the guidelines of the smog equipment for the model year of the engine itself. e.g. If the engine type/make called for a 4-barrel carb, PCV device, this would still be the case and they would be checking to see the vehichle would still pass the tailpipe test (looking for "gross polluters"). Now that SB100 and SB1578 are available, I wonder what will happen if it does not pass the physical inpsection or tailpipe test requirements?....Maybe 1578 would apply since its already been registered. Please let us know how it works out.
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SB-100 is for cars that have not been previously registered and are newly built. SB-1578 was intended to let previoulsy registered cars, and cars registered out of state be legally registered in the Republick of Calif. However since both count against the 500 alotted numbers that is getting to be a huge problem. Another all important factor is the DMV and if you can get a person who is knowledgeable and will work with you. There is about a 5% chance of this.
Paragraph 1 SB-1578. "If the application for registration is received after the dept. has registered 500 special construction vehicles during that calendar year and the application requists a model year determination different from the model year determination assigned in the previous aplication. The vehicle owner would be subject to the emission control and inspection requirements applicable to the model year assigned in the previous registration.
What SB-1578 basically was for is to allow people to re-register their cars as something different from what the original regisatration was. If the car is from another state and is already registered and you can get a good DMV person and give them a fair estimate of the value of the car you can register it just as you would a regular Ford or Chevy. Since you are not planning to change what the car is registered as. I don't think you can use SB-1578. If you know a good person at your local DMV who is knowledgeable in this field, talk to them first and tell them exactly what you are buying and they can then tell you what you need to do to register it in Calif. This is still a very vague area in this state as the DMVs have so many different interpetations of what to do and few of them even read the MEMO that was sent to them telling them every step to use in registering special construction vehicles. SB-100 won't work for any previously registered car regardless of what state it was registered in. I know this is confusing and unfortunately there is no simple answer in this state as it varies from one DMV to the next.

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Sb1578 is a bill (after thought) to remove the word "INITIAL" from Sb100 so that Sb100 cars can reregister the next year (without the need for another seq # ) and for out of state cars to be reregistered (need seq#), and to clean up GRAY area titles (need seq#) .

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