CA registration question: used car, 1975 block

[offroadr35]

I posted this question in my other thread but in case the right people don't see it i thought i'd start a new thread. I just bought a completed FFR Daytona Coupe. It has had 2 owners. The engine block is a 1975. I believe it is currently registered in CA as a 1975 but am not totally sure.

What do i need to do to register it? I have read all the stuff about SB100 but i do not think that applies to me since the car has already been registered. Also i'm hoping that i can skirt around all of these expemption things and just register it normally because the block is smog exempt in 2004.

I just want to make sure this all goes smoothly. I tried to search but i don't think this specific case has been addressed.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2446547506

-Steve

[NROTOXIN]

Steve,
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/pub/01-02/...chaptered.html
This bill (SB1578) is what you may fall under...it is SB100 ammended to remove the word 'INITAL' Registration. You would be smog exempt under this one as they only sniff for data collecting only....for now. Only problem is it is limited to 500 cars.

good luck,
curtis

[offroadr35]

i read the last part of that as saying that it only counts as one of the 500 if you're attempting to get it registered as a different year than it already is. Since it is already registered as a 1975 i have no reason to change it so it should just re-register as a 75 without any other work, no? Am i reading something wrongly?

-Steve

[Edley Rondinone]

What does the registration say? This will answer your question. I THINK smog checks stop after 30 years old...was it registered in the state you are trying to register it in now?

[Ron61]

Before you get into the Calif. morase of legal gray areas, make sure if you just want to register it as the 1975 that is ok. Originally the 30 year limit was supposed to move up each two years I think it was, but I believe they stopped that and the cut off date the last I could find ot was 1974. If that is so and you register it as a 1975 then you may have an emission nightmare. SB-1578 was for cars registered out of state as other type cars, but I think you can with money, patience, and finding a DMV person who will work with you also change the registration to say a 1965 Cobra replica, assuming you can get one of the 500 numbers. If you do this, use the body style for the year and not the motor. That is your choice and not the DMVs.

If the car is already registered in Calif as a 1975, then it should be no different than buying any other used car. But you may still have to have the emission test done.

Ron

[offroadr35]

ok i picked up the car yesterday. It was registered under SB100. The engine is 1975. The title says "YR/Model: 0000 Make: SPCNS" Then a few lines down it says "*YR: 2002"

I also have the owner's original SB100 certificate. He was #300 in 2002.

Has no one bought a used Cobra in CA and re-registered it? Can anyone help?

I'm on with the DMV right now but haven't found anyone who really knows.

Thanks,
Steve

[Ron61]

Steve,

I talked to a person at our DMV and he told me that you should have no problem at all and that if the car was already registered under SB-100, it should be no different than if you bought a used Ford pickup from someone. He said just take your paperwork in like you would any other car and have the title transferred into your name. Just make sure that you take everything that pertains to the car in any manner as it depends on the clerk as to how much they may ask for. He said all he would ask for was the normal paperwork to transfer the car and to see the papers showing the SPCN. He said it should be no different than a normal used car transfer.


Ron

[offroadr35]

so ron, does that mean i don't even have to wait until 2004 to do it? The paperwork i have is as follows:

Title
Registration
Bill of Sale
Original SPCN SB100 sequence cert.
an original smog cert that says it's SB100
Original brake and lamp adjustment forms

will i not have to deal with BAR at all? Do i still need a sequence number? I made an appointment for Jan 2 already but it sounds like what you are saying is that i really don't have to do anything.

Thanks a lot,
Steve

[Randy Rosenberg]

I agree with Ron. I think this is just a matter of submitting the purchasing paperwork to the DMV as you would any privately purchased used vehicle.

[offroadr35]

yes but a privately purchased vehicle of a different type would require a smog certificate with it to get titled..

[Ron61]

Steve,

That is what the SPCN number does for you. It is exempt from smog and you don't need to wait for 2004 numbers to come out as they don't issue you another one. And only a privately purchesed vehicle of later than the smog years require a smog test. Just as if you purchase a used Govt. vehicle. They are exempt from smog. Your SPCN number shows the DMV that it is exempt and it doesn't have to meet any emissions requirements and most likely wouldn't have passed them when the original owner got the SPVN number. You have everything you need, just go do it and the DMV has a memo that I can't remember the number of that even takes them step by step thourgh both SB-100 registrations and what you are doing.

Ron

[Bluesman]

FYi... My special construction vehicle has a 69' engine. The BAR assigned it a bar code. This code tells the smog station (every two years) what I am required to have on the engine. Vac adv.
dist., choke stove, T-stat heat riser air cleaner, PCV, no open vented valve cover. The oil fumes need to be taken from the valve train and circulated through the carb. Each time I take it in, it is interpeted differently. No big deal. It is all bolt on, take back off stuff. My advice to you, if you already have the bar code sticker in your engine compartment, go to the local smog station and ask the employee to interpet the coded sticker for you. Then you can figure out what you need to do from that point on. If it has been registered previoulsy then you probably have the sticker attached somewhere in the engine bay. Sometimes I wish I would have just outright cheated them all and originally registered the car with a bogus title from one of those "back of the magizine" adds for a BS title.

[xlr8or]

Steve,
If it was originally registered under SB100 you are fine. That is the proper way to do in CA. All you are doing is a title transfer. The SB100 is for initial registration of the "Kit/component" car.

You should have no problem now. Just pay the registration fee, sales tax and tags.

[offroadr35]

cool. i'm gonna go to the DMV tomorrow to try to get it sorted out. That way if everything gets fawked up, as things have a tendancy to do at the DMV, i can always go back on my appointment on Jan 2.

I'll post back when i know what the deal is.

[offroadr35]

so here's the update. I went to the DMV today. I now have registration in hand. The lady said it needed SMOG but i informed her that it shouldn't because of SB100. She had me fill out a statement of facts form where i wrote that it is smog exempt because of sb100, gave the sequence number, and that the bodystyle is 1965. I'm not sure what's going to happen with that if anything. All i know is i now have my registration in hand and my new title is on its way.

-Steve

[Ron61]

Steve,

Congratulations. That is exactly what the guy I talked to told me. We have one person in our DMV here that knows much. I think most of the DMVs in Calif. are like that. If you can find that person that knows, then things go well.n

Merry Christmas,

Ron