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Old 01-25-2004, 09:39 AM
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That depends, the announcers indicated that part of the price was the "allure" of owning a "Shelby signed car." Earlier someone paid an extra $25,000 for a 59 corvette simply because the visor was signed by Nomar G (Redsoxs) & Mia Hamm (soccer). Lot of money for a visor.
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Makes no difference what BJ is paid out of the proceeds. Point is what the buyer is willing to pay for the car. Point is that even when the "Rods" sold for big number it seems they usually had some big name in the Hot Rod world connected with the car or involved in the build. Thats the way it seemed to me.

Yes. "Names" did bring the money, but recongnizable names in the muscle performance world... "Z28", "Hemi", "Calloway", "Shelby"..

I'm just pointing out the obvious. After all I am the master of the obvious.

Clay: My point was that if it was an "aluminum car" the hood wouldn't look like someone was trying to make it look like aluminum.
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It would appear to me that a "name" makes a big difference. If for no other reason than the Contemporary going for so little and the Glass Shelby going for so much. TO much, in my opinion by the way. Hmmmmm,,,,,must have been the name, both were glass cars.

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For better or worse, right or wrong, "name" does matter.
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Point well taken Evan...I was just responding to someone who said that you could tell it was a glass car because of the "rough" finish on the underside of the hood. I was just saying, not necessarily.
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What really surprised me was the continuation GT350 that went for 140K. That's a whole lot of money for a reworked 65 chassis no matter how much work there was. As for the economy holding back 400K for the 37 Zepher v12 Restorod seems like awfull good money.
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IM OLD AND GETTIG REAL FORGETFUL, SO HELP ME OUT "REAL ONE". WHAT IS THE "HISTORY" YOU ARE REFERING TO ON THE 4000 'S CARS?
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Terry,
Where exactly is Genea in relation to Reno?

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I was there at BJ and there we some qaulity Cobra Replicas, including Shelby's booth full of the 4000+ series...Most of the ones I saw in the staging areas were "glass:.... Though Shelby had a few aluminum cars laying around....There we some beautiful GT-40's around too that pulled in fair cash.....I wonder what an "original" Kirkham would bring in on the block?
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BTW: I looked over the ZEPHER and it is an amazing piece of work in every way....But....I would have rather taken the Black 32' that was built by Ray Kinney - An all aluminum hand fabbed boat tail car, full vented belly pan with a 296ci Ardun Ford V8...it went for about 150k...a much better buy in my book...
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KMP 207 was on the block last year and didn't make the reserve.
The high bid was $32k
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Sorry for the cross-posting.

I put up a link with auction results at:

Barret Jackson 2004 Cobra Auction Results

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Genoa is south of Reno on 395...south of Carson city, in fact. Pretty little valley. Nice place for lunch after hauling down the Kingsbury Grade from Tahoe.
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Dan: Wow! That seems quite low? Was it complete? From what I have seen over the years, the Kirkhams hold their value quite well?

Who Knows, this may just be the year for the Muscle Car and Retro Rod...Next Year all the craze may be for Japanese "Hot Rods"
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Jorgen,
Here's the listing:
1965 SHELBY COBRA KIRKHAM ROADSTER
LOT #496 - RESERVE

2003 PBCCA CCA
HIGH BID OF $32,000


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CYLINDERS - 8
VIN - KMP207



This "kirkham motor sports" replica of the "highly sought after" 1965 shelby cobra is the "same" car sold in las-vegas at the shelby plant for $130,000. This shelby features an "original 427 cubic inch" side-oiler, numbers matching. Completely re-built and has "5" minutes on the motor. The transmission is a "tremac" all aluminum 5-speed with over drive and a close ratio shift pattern. Clutch is a 3-disk racing version with
"hydraulic assist". Feels like a daily driver. This car handles better than a new z--06 corvette and corners on rails. A steal at $100,000.00


It just goes to show that the bidders fancy changes yearly. Who knows what the marque will be next year or even if it will remain as strong at similar Kruse auctions.
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GENOA, NV. IS THE OLDEST SETTLEMENT IN THE STATE. 3 BARS,TWO GOLF COURSES AND A POPULATION OF 220. IF YOU ARE AT LAKE TAHOE AND WALK OUT THE BACK DOOR OF CEASARS, GO OVER THE MOUNTAIN (20 MINUTES) YOU ARE THERE. COME ON UP AND ILL TAKE OVER TO SEE CSX3304, CSX2427 & CSX2196. HELL, THE SR2 CORVETTE IS IN THE SAME GARAGE!
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Terry,
With that inventory You could be a little more specific to the exact location.
Just let us know when you are out of town or the items are not well attended. It also has to be when the perimeter alarms are not working, the dogs are asleep and the guard is on leave.

I will need an exact count. I have more gasholes willing to drive than you have cars..

We get up that way often, next time I would love to stop by and say hello or meet for food and drinks in town.

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Nice writeup on the SR2 in Automobile...Rich must be proud.
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NOW TURK, I DIDN'T SAY THEY WERE MINE OR IN MY GARAGE. THEY BELONG TO MY FRIEND RICH MASON, AS NOTED BY JAMO. RICH KEEPS THEM ABOUT 15 MIN. FROM HERE. THE OFFER DOES STAND THOUGH.
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I'm going to disagree with you Mr. Semko on the trend of boomers gravitating (i'm paraphrasing) towards 'muscle cars' etc. due to age or what not. I think its much easier than that. The big collectors gravitate towards low production cars with proven race history whether its drag racing, or FIA etc. Hemi, Callaway, Shelby, Yenko, ZL-1 etc. is simply pedigree and pedigree brings top dollar for the collector. I'm not trying to pick a bone here but I'm just commenting on some general thoughts by many that it sucks to be a pedigree whore etc. I can't say one way or another b/c I don't have a Cobra or a collectible but I know some people that do and unfortunately, right or wrong, pedigree, exclusivity and *gulp* flash (display) helps with any sale. Just my .02. I went to the auction with a guy that is only wanting a Cobra to complete his collection of Shelby's with big blocks. In his mind, glass is not an option and neither is a 289 as its too common, from his perspective. I personally love the hell out of the 289 and thought the SAI display was damn good looking. regards
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