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01-28-2004, 03:17 PM
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hello everyone I just joined the club and am trying to figure this site out.
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01-28-2004, 03:21 PM
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I am trying to figure out the best companies to buy a cobra replica from. I have norrowed my choices down to B and B, SPF, and FF5. I like what B and B are offering, but would like to know about your opinions.
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01-28-2004, 03:33 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: E.R.A. FIA #2088 1964 289 w/Webers
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Three very different cars. What are "your" requirements? Are you going to build? Race? Etc., Etc..
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01-28-2004, 03:36 PM
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hello there i didn't think i was getting any of my mess. across.
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01-28-2004, 03:36 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #375 427 S/C - 428FE - Toploader - 1968 AMX 390 Go Pack 4 Speed - My Daily Driver is a 2004 Crossfire
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Hi MoparMadness:
First off, your question is alot like many we get here in trying to differentiate the various replicas from each other. This differentiation is something that the replica builders do not do very well. So we as consumers have to look elsewhere.
Might I suggest that you invest in a good book on this subject?
If you go to my Cobra Bibliography, (Click on the WWW button just under this post) you will get to my web page. Go get a cup of coffee or two if you are on dial up. It is a huge page now with loads of graphics.
In the books section, you will find perhaps one of the most helpfull books on Cobra Replicas. It is titled "Complete Guide to Cobra Replicas, 3rd Edition" by Curt Scott.
Also, for those of you in Great Britain, Ian Stent's Cobra Replicas book, does a real nice job on the English replicas.
However, since I imagine that you are Stateside, the The Curt Scott book is the one that you should get and study. Also read my advice in that review.
Lastly.... you are not thinking of powering a Cobra with a Mopar Hemi are You?
Cheers
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01-28-2004, 03:39 PM
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I want to build my own car. I believe i am very mechanically inclined. I have helped restore a bunch of mopars with a friend of mine in the twin cities.
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01-28-2004, 03:43 PM
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thanks for the site. I had ordered a cobra book off the web site KITKARCLUB and am waiting for that to show up. I had looked at the book you had mentioned and the one i had ordered, and thougth that one which had more in it via what was told about them on the sites.
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01-28-2004, 03:44 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster/428CJ "The Stretch Limo of Cobras"
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Hello Moparmaddnes,
Welcome aboard. I'm also in the Bay Area Mid Penninsula Mopar Club.
Bob Faust
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01-28-2004, 03:47 PM
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The SPF car is pretty much a roller. All you need to add is the Motor & Tranny & you're on the road. The other two you mentioned are kits that you can build from the ground up & in some instances, if you choose, have others do the work for you. The FFR car can be very budget friendly because you can use a donor car for your drivetrain & running gear or you can mix in custom parts to your liking. I'm not real familiar with the B&B cars. The Bodies on all three cars are all different in shape.
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01-28-2004, 03:51 PM
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Hi Again Mopar:
The Scott book, tells you WHAT the 5 most important features of each Replica kit are. That is a novel approach. Of course you alone can only figure out if those features are important to you.
I too am awaiting the KITCARCLUB book. I have not seen it yet. It too is on order. Lets hope it is good.
You should try to find some guys in your local area of the US that have the replicas you are thinking about. Perhaps a call to each replica dealer could provide you with references in your geography?
Good Luck.
And again... are you going to put a HEMI in that Cobra??
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01-28-2004, 03:51 PM
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I am somewhat confused about when you say different shapes.
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01-28-2004, 03:56 PM
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most manufacturers have a body shape that is unique to that company. Kinda their own version of the "Cobra". Some would argue that some are more accurate than others.
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01-28-2004, 03:56 PM
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Nope not going to put a HEMI in the car, would like to put in a 427 side oiler, but I can,t afford that. I'm going to turn 30 in a couple weeks and just starting a family one son just turned 1. I love mopar and all makes and manuf. Just getting tired of the way the prices of the original cars are going.
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01-28-2004, 03:57 PM
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I want a car that is as accurate as possible, but doesn't need to be exact to the last detail.
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01-28-2004, 04:02 PM
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I am selling my 71' Challenger to finance the project. I want something nice to drive and be proud of. Was thinking of building a stroked small block with manual, approx. 390 cubes.
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01-28-2004, 04:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by moparmaddnes
I want a car that is as accurate as possible, but doesn't need to be exact to the last detail.
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Try ERA or Kirkham if you want it 'as accurate as possible' and build it yourself. Kirkham is an aluminum bodied car and the price point is higher. Both fine cars. For an accurate look but generally less money look at Unique. Just some of the many, but good places to start.
Rick
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01-28-2004, 04:06 PM
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OUt of the three you listed SPF is probably about the nicest, most accurate bodywise. This might start a war though so you didn't hear it from me
Budget is your best starting point. If you have a # in mind you'll have a good starting point. I ended up eclipsing that number a while back & I'm nowhere near done. No regrets though
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01-28-2004, 04:11 PM
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well i was thinking 20,000, but I can do just about everything from putting the car together , painting or have father-in-law, and building the motor.
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01-28-2004, 04:16 PM
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well i was thinking 20,000, but I can do just about everything from putting the car together , painting or have father-in-law, and building the motor.
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So much for Kirkham, SPF, ERA, Unique, etc. To finish a car for 20 you will HAVE to do EVERYTHING your self.
What kind of Challenger is it? Prices on those seem to range from 10 to 80 for a hemi r/t.
I am not that familiar with BandB but you could do FF5 (bare bones and lots of parts shopping). Of course you will have to go the donor route with that kind of budget. At best you will be able to freshen, yourself, the donor parts.
But oh the fun you will have!
Rick
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01-28-2004, 04:20 PM
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Sounds like FFR is a good choice. I've seen some really nicely done, award winning FFR cars. Another choice, which is also a really nice car & is close to that is Unique Replicas. Unique was second on my list when I was doing research. They are quality people with a great product. When All said & Done the unique will cost you more than you are proposing but it may be worth the stretch if you are doing most of the work.
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