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Old 02-15-2004, 10:42 AM
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Please, let me try again.

If it is a Shelby club, it should include only those things Shel' did, including the Chrysler thing (ugh!) and one would suppose the Sunbeam thing and the Viper thing...collecting old Goodyear tires, signing old Goodyear tires, driving and winning le mans(Yea!)...trips to Kenya...yawn.

If it is a Shelby-American club, it would include the things the company Shelby-American did, which is mainly Cobras and 350's. Ergo, the current registry.

To do the SA/Cobra thing properly and carefully, they must include the other Cobras from AC as a matter of both form and caution, as the registry so explains. Even those cars the registry doesn't want to recognize as Cobras from AC are included. Ergo, the current registry.

To continue to do the SA/Cobra thing, the registry must be dragged kicking and screaming into recording certainly the Kirkham thing to make any sense of both the past philosophy and future caution.

And, maybe more.

Don't blame me, blame Shelby. He's jumping all over the place in the last 8 years. He started all this stuff with his dream sequence....don't you remember the beginning of this thread?

Smile and be happy. Go outside, get something done. Drive your car, shovel some partly cloudy off the driveway...
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Ha ha,,,, some partly cloudy? Hmmmm, sounds like the registry to me!

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Old 02-15-2004, 11:08 AM
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Y'know, I am not now, nor ever likely to be, able to "own" a car with a CSX/COB/AKL prefix to it's VIN number. So it goes.

However, I took the Crendon out this morning, and on wet but (slowly) drying English roads, had as much fun as I can recall in the years this car has been on the road. The sound, the acceleration, the wind in my ears and hair. Oh, and the very rapid opposite lock corrections as well.

As the man from "outside Miami" says, forget the rhetoric, get out and drive.
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I must be missing somethng here regarding SAAC critiques...its kinda like their football and their rules, seems fair to me.

SAAC has been around for what, almost 30 years now..in one name or another, the original club was called something else i believe and started in a Detroit suburb and evolved into SAAC .

The Registry and the services of their various Registrars is invaluable in trying to keep tabs on the legitimate Shelbys' of all types that they follow. They are the central keeper of the flame ensuring it does not go out. They have kept many a person from buying a fake . If i owned a real authentic shelby of any type i would be glad to know that there is someone/some group keeping historical tabs on my car ...preserving the past for the future.

I have been a SAAC member for maybe 12 or more years and find them to be very supportive to any inquiries i have had when i have been on the GT 500 search or whatever. Their annual events are a blast (SAAC 29 this year at Mich International Speedway in July).

I guess i really dont care what cars they follow that have some kind of Shelby history or involvement. Not sure it is something that i personally would get hung up over ...but to each their own.

I suppose if ya want to complain, then dont join. or join and voice your complaint. but after all, it is their football and their rules...and i am sure the vast majority by a significant margin of their members are like me, they dont own a real original Shelby. the replica folks and clone folks help keep the flame alive too.

just my two cents worth...despite any personal feelings for or against CS, it is he that gave us and the world so many dreams to lust after or copy or be one of the lucky ones that own a piece of history from the 60s or whenever.

Peace, love and happiness. Bill.
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Perhaps the SAAC actually started in North Jersey/CT? I recall Eber and Kopec in the earliest days as hosts of various meetings and such. Not unlike today.

They are very good dudes as measured by their publications and the registry is the best. Wouldn't imagine anyone with even a Kit Cobra that wouldn't include a copy of each issue in their library.

Although Kemper, among others, started the registry ball, the registrar efforts of Ned, Bill and Ken have been nothing less than Herclean. They strive to keep the stuff perfect and still cover all the bases.

The yeoman's credit goes to Kopec for editing the huge thing so well.

No one here is criticizing the SAAC or the registry, as far as I can remember. This is a discussion at the moment about the implications of Shelby's more recent use of Kirkham cars (which are also sold separately under the Kirkham brand with proprietary bits included) as the basis for "Genuine Shelby Cobras" as pertaining to the theory of including the Kirkham bits (and others) in the registry.

Perhaps this issue has already been address by them and I would imagine that they are already at a consensus.

We were simply discussing logic about our mutual lioves.

Clear?

Besides, any club that would have me as a member ought to review their membership entrance requirements again.

Peace, love and happiness back at ya', along with clear thinking and the freedom to express it.
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