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02-09-2004, 04:56 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: St. Louis,
Mo.
Cobra Make, Engine: 427 S.O. Dual Quad / Cobra undecided
Posts: 1,380
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engine displacement and badges
Hey guys, if you are running a 351w bored and stroked to 427, is it okay to display 427 badges on your car or is that considered poor form?
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02-09-2004, 05:00 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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To me, not at all.
If you're replicating the body style, then a 427 badge is fine. Why not?
There are "351", etc. badges available if you had to... but do what ya like.
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02-09-2004, 05:02 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Annapolis,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique, 427SO, it runs
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It all depends upon who you ask. Some people think it is bad form, many don't, and plenty of people do it. My opinion is do whatever you like, and don't apologize for it. These cars are supposed to be about enjoyment and a lot of it is the look of the car.
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02-09-2004, 05:03 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Louisville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: I'm Cobra-less!
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Well, the 427 badge refers to the body style, correct? Or did I dream that somewhere?
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02-09-2004, 05:07 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: St. Louis,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 427 S.O. Dual Quad / Cobra undecided
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Blykins, that is what I assumed but I am curious to find out if there is a consensus opinion on issue.
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02-09-2004, 05:15 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: St. Augustine,
FL
Cobra Make, Engine: E-M / Power Performance / 521 stroker / Holley HP EFI
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Here's what I'd like to have.
Is there a reasonable source?
Tom
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02-09-2004, 05:36 PM
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BE LIKE CARROLL ....
Supplying 428s in most CSX3000s didn't stop Carroll from putting a 427 badge on them.
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02-09-2004, 05:47 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: San Mateo,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: LA Exotics (B&B) Cobra, 408W, Roush Heads, Demon Carb, Comp Cam, Tremec Z-Spec T5, 9" Auburn Rear
Posts: 185
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Ron,
When you say that other badges are available, do you mean fender badges that follow the same format as the original badges, but with displacements other than 427? If so, where?
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02-09-2004, 05:51 PM
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Quote:
Blykins, that is what I assumed but I am curious to find out if there is a consensus opinion on issue
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Oh man!, talk about stirrin the pot. Define "consensus". Sorry, just being a gashole!
I agree with STG,
If Ole Shel could put 428's in with 427 badges then I would say a stroked 351 qualifies as well. You will run into the purist from time to time, but hey your paying for it not them. Build what you like, not what others (Who are probably jealous) would have you build. The only time I would be a purist is if I saw a real 427 car with the wrong motor.
--Mike
Last edited by mj_duell; 02-09-2004 at 05:54 PM..
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02-09-2004, 05:57 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Louisville,
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Don't the Shelby 427 club racers have 351W's in them?
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02-09-2004, 06:30 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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Originally posted by goaztecs
Ron,
When you say that other badges are available, do you mean fender badges that follow the same format as the original badges, but with displacements other than 427? If so, where?
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I think Tony Branda and Cobraspares (UK- company) both have the side badges in all sorts of number combos....
http://www.cobraspares.com/badges.htm
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02-09-2004, 08:25 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Sunbury,
VIC
Cobra Make, Engine: Rat Rod Racer, LS1 & T56
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One of our Aussie members is running a 514 but could only get "Cobra 460" rocker covers. He had 514 numbers water cut from aluminium in the same font as the 460. I machined off the 460 on the rocker covers and he's going to attach the 514 numbers where 460 was. It should look great when it's all together.
I plan on machining up my own fender badges to reflect my engine choice
Cheers
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Melbourne Australia
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02-09-2004, 08:34 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Annapolis,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique, 427SO, it runs
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Goaztecs....check out Finish Line under the advertisers banner here. They have the most common badges used.
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02-09-2004, 08:36 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Sonoma,
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Cobra Make, Engine: spf 351W stroked to 427
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lineslinger, This might seem real dumb... I had a good running 351W 385hp in my car with 427 badges and got tired of people asking if my car was a 427 and trying to explain. So I spent another $10,000 to build a 427W to match the "stinkin" badges. I have a Corvette with a 427bb -- too much weight up front. So that's my 427W story, and I'm stickin to it (with low oil pressure and all). Now, please, you Guy's don't laugh so loud that I can hear you from my garage.
Rick
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02-10-2004, 07:23 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Fairfield, NJ, USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: A & C, 351W, Tremec 3550. Exiled Member: Club Cranky
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"Crisis occurs when women and cattle get excited!"....James Thurber
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02-10-2004, 07:25 AM
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"Crisis occurs when women and cattle get excited!"....James Thurber
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02-10-2004, 10:05 AM
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Renegade Nuns on Wheels
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: columbus,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427 roadster with 351C-4B
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The old badge debate. Some people think it is OK, some don't. Some think it is an indication of engine size, some think it is the body style.
Bottom line, it is your car. Put what ever the heck you want on it. The 'is that a 427' question does get tiresome. If they don't know what they are looking at............
I wonder if I switch to 351 Cleveland badges will I get the same question?
Rick
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02-10-2004, 04:15 PM
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Well, I have a 351w bored and stroked to 427.5cu.in. I also have the 427 body style. I have the 427 emblems. When someone asks "is that a 427", I say "yes it is". I don't bother to tell them it's a 427 smallblock. Sometimes I even say it's a lightweight 427. You can really have fun with people sometimes.
Flatliner
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02-10-2004, 04:25 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: San Mateo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: LA Exotics (B&B) Cobra, 408W, Roush Heads, Demon Carb, Comp Cam, Tremec Z-Spec T5, 9" Auburn Rear
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I think if you have a 427W (or anything above 400ci for that matter) you can pretty much answer "yes" to that question and feel good about it. I've got a 289 in my car, and I am going to get rid of my 427 badges because I am so tired of that question! Here in California, I have to listen to it during all 12 months of driving weather per year. I've thought about stroking the 351W from my Mustang and dropping it in my Cobra just to shut people up!! I wish there were 289 badges available that looked exactly like the 427 badges, but with "289". Oh well....
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02-10-2004, 04:55 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Yorba Linda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF w/392CI stroker
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"Well, it FEELS like a 427....."
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