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02-28-2004, 06:06 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Royersford,
Pa
Cobra Make, Engine: FFR2479K, 351W yellow/black stripes
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We talk about how many original Cobras are left, but...
...how about the ones that aren't still on the road/in a museum? There were approximately 1000 made, give or take a few, and probably 75% or more are still around.
Has anyone kept records on the few hundred that are gone? Is there record that they were definitely destroyed and scrapped? Accidents? Fire? Put in the crusher? Is it possible there are some unaccounted cars sitting in the proverbial barn somewhere? Or a wrecked one sitting in someones garage that is not on the registry?
Steve
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02-28-2004, 07:09 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
SC
Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
Posts: 12,690
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SAAC has quite a bit of information from the national database. Far more than their last registry (1997), so much so that the next registry will be a two volume set...........
Bill S.
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02-28-2004, 07:21 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Shasta Lake,
CA
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I know of one that was definately destroyed. It was wrecked at LeMans in 1965 I think it was. It hit a small English car from the rear after dark and the other car never had the lights on. Both cars exploded and the Cobra was totaled. They brought it back to Los Angles and cut it up with torches and threw the parts in a garbage dumpster. I have some pictures in some book of the mess it was in.
Ron
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02-28-2004, 07:46 AM
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289 FIA Fan
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Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Dallas,
TX
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Bill
Do you know when the next Shelby Registry will be coming out?
David Lowell
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02-28-2004, 07:49 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
Posts: 10,362
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Last published schedule indicated June 2004...
...but, sometimes that slips.
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02-28-2004, 08:00 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hanover,
NH
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
Posts: 559
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Quote:
Originally posted by Ron61
I know of one that was definately destroyed. It was wrecked at LeMans in 1965 I think it was. It hit a small English car from the rear after dark and the other car never had the lights on. Both cars exploded and the Cobra was totaled. They brought it back to Los Angles and cut it up with torches and threw the parts in a garbage dumpster. I have some pictures in some book of the mess it was in.
Ron
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Just happened to have that book handy! The race was 12 Hours of Sebring, 1964. Driver Bob Johnson somehow only got a black eye and a broken nose. The car is completely unrecognizable- a picture of it is in Dave Friedman's Shelby Archives book.
-JT
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02-28-2004, 08:03 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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...and, as if by magic, that car drives around today!
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02-28-2004, 08:04 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hanover,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
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Quote:
Originally posted by computerworks
...and, as if by magic, that car drives around today!
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Is that the one on eBay?
-JT
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02-28-2004, 08:09 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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no.
it is CSX2259... carries the CSX number but it is known that it is a "phoenix-from-the-ashes" and not the original roller.
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02-28-2004, 08:13 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
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That 'ol Shelby magic! There's got to be more to THAT little story...
-JT
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02-28-2004, 08:43 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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02-28-2004, 08:55 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Hanover,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby Cobra 427 S/C
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Shouldn't you have just said "Do a search, numbnuts!"?
Thanks for the link. Excellent thread- good Saturday reading for sure. Helps to be Lynn Park to have a Cobra rise from the ashes I 'spose.
The more I see, the more I believe we're all just a bunch of poser wannabees compared to those guys who strapped themselves into the REAL Cobras (dented, dirty, trunks held closed with bungie cords, questionable steering, rear end problems and trophies).
-JT
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02-28-2004, 10:34 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Shasta Lake,
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Lurk,
Thanks for correcting my mistake. I went and got my book after I logged off and saw that I had posted the wrong race.
Ron (CW)
Thanks for posting the picture and verifying what I had heard. I heard that they saved the CSX number from the car but had never seen anything or anyone until now that could actually verify that they had reused it.
Ron
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02-28-2004, 12:12 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Menomonie, Wisconsin,
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Accounting for the number of cars still in existence is quite easy--the Registry does that. The problem is with wrecked cars that have come back to life using parts from others that makes it quite difficult to give an accurate number of true original cars in existence.
The role of thumb is this: typically, in the run of the mill, grocery getter, mom and pop sedans the survival rate is around 1% after 25 years. Sports Cars, such as the Corvette/Cobra have much higher rates of survival. I think 75% of '53 Corvettes are accounted for. Cobras are probably even higher--despite the rebodies/rechassis cars out there.
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