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03-16-2004, 07:03 PM
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Are the prices the same for both? Look at the one with the lower mileage. Unless you have a preference for either color, they are very similar.
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03-16-2004, 07:22 PM
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I'm not sure how much help the Australian Cobra Club will be to you......
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03-16-2004, 07:33 PM
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Unless you like lashing valves, I'd go with 925. Although it seems to have a custom built engine, you would have to check out the builder to see if that is a plus. 925 has a crate engine, the jury seems to be out on whether that is good or bad, but it has a hydraulic cam. 925 also has more options. Check on www.cobracountry.com to compare prices before you agree to anything.
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03-16-2004, 07:40 PM
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What are lashing valves ? Also which of these cobras has the better engine ? which color looks better because theres a guy in town that has almost the same color with stripe as the silver with black stripe.
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03-16-2004, 07:46 PM
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Must say I tend to agree with the last two Posts.
Hey Luke-44
We Aussies are pretty good judges of things that look good.
Just check out our Parking Meter Maids in Queensland. Our Grid Girls at the F1. in Melbourne our TV Weather girls etc. etc.
Now do I need to go on??
Dreamer - good luck with your decision. Check both out. Take both for a run (if allowed) and then stop dreaming and take the keys home. Convert it to right hand drive.....
Cheers
Bernie
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03-16-2004, 07:48 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 389 427s/o
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Originally posted by Gi8avett
which color looks better because theres a guy in town that has almost the same color with stripe as the silver with black stripe.
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Color is a personal preference. You get to decided that one.
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03-16-2004, 07:53 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Former owner of Superformance Cobra. Engine is Coast High Performance "Cobra Classic" 427 stroker
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Both cars are Superformance. An excellent choice! I own a Superformance car and the quality is outstanding, the car is extremely well built and the dealer network is strong. You can't go wrong with the manufacturer of these vehicles.
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03-16-2004, 08:05 PM
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thanks sp1410 . What are lashing valves ?
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03-16-2004, 08:50 PM
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933 has a solid roller cam. Because the lifters are solid, they don't flex much as the engine wears, so they are adjusted periodically to insure proper valve closing. Hydraulic lifters adjust as the engine wears because the lifter telescopes based on oil pressure in the lifter. I'm sure there is more involved there (I'll leave that to the experts), but the main point and bottom line is solid = manual valve adjustment and hydraulic = self adjusting valves.
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03-16-2004, 09:32 PM
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which valves are better ??? 933 or 925
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03-16-2004, 09:46 PM
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If the one is a 200 series I would not get it. There have been several changes (improvements) made to the cars since then. I would also look for other Superformance Cobra's for sale. Unless I had a second Cobra, I would not get a small block Cobra.
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03-16-2004, 10:34 PM
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I would want to see how each car is titled, especially here in Ca.
If you can get a SB100 registered car that is a real plus. If it says something like "registered as a 66 Ford" or something similar I would tend to avoid that one. Could be a headache waiting to happen.
I would also want the car with the knock-offs, NOT the "as nice as any" lug nuts.
Bandit 1 makes a good point about the older cars also.
Superformance does make a fine car.
What are the asking prices? Can't begin a comparison till we get the money issue out there.
Rick
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03-17-2004, 03:47 AM
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these two could be a close toss of the coin if the engine combo is what ya want and the prices are close. or one is preferred color over the other. if prices vary considerably then take a closer look at the two side by side. car 933 is listed as '200 series' , no serial given. car 925 is listed with serial 1014, so a newer car.
there are variances between the 200 series vs the newer car. many of those changes are easy to retrofit and many are sometimes done by the owners. so, i would not rule out a 200 series car as they can be great buys too. now if ya need the lowered front seat floor well due to being a taller driver, then that is something that cannot be retrofitted. the early car is described as not having true knock offs (they were optional early on) and that would probably cost about $2400 or more to retrofit IF you felt you had to, a big cost difference there vs the newer car which has knock offs.
over time spf changes also included : shocks have been upgraded, brakes too and other creature comforts in newer vs early cars. there should be some price adjustment for that in one vs the other.
the 392 stroker crate if a ford svo should be rated at 430 hp and 450# torque vs the custom built motor's stats. if ya want a big block, then neither car is for you.
so, look em over...price the deal and make your decision. the two cars are close to each other but not exact. each has something that the other does not, it is up to you to decide if ya gotta have it or dont really care..or want to upgrade later if need be.
i have an early SPF and it still shows like the newer cars..and i have done some but not all of the upgrades...my choice to pick and choose which ones. some are nice to have but would not be a deal breaker to me...and if i was a taller person vs being vertically challenged, then i would opt for the newer dropped floor model. alas, i dont need it.
enjoy whatever ya buy, more fun than folks can describe. bill
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03-17-2004, 05:25 AM
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Agree, it's probably a coin flip, and if it's just down to these two, I'd go with with one titled in a way that you can cope with the registration and inspection process in CA or whatever state you keep it.
In the majority of states, a 65-66 Ford title (or whatever, year is the factor) is an ADVANTAGE, because it allows you to register it as "historic or antique" and avoids safety and emissions inspections. Don't know about CA, but it could make it more attractive for resale.
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03-17-2004, 05:36 AM
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clay, good point..as it allows for a wider audience for resale to prospects in emission controlled areas , at least for those that allow 65/66 year vehicles to be emission exempt.
. another cost save if registered as a 65/66 Ford is MUCH LOWER insurance rates at most, if not all, the classic car insurance carriers that still insure these rascals. bill.
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03-17-2004, 06:49 AM
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All else being equal (titling, price, etc) or close I would buy the red one.
Rick
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03-17-2004, 07:16 AM
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Clay makes a good point regarding the titling issue. But assuming the cars were priced and titled similarly, I'd probably go with the red one b/c, based on what you can see, it looks like the red one was a better build.
From looking at the engine pics, someone obviously spent more time and money putting higher quality and more correct parts on the red one. For example, the red one has the proper surge tank, the other just has radiator fill neck. Also, the red one uses a braided steel line for the fuel line; the fuel line on the other one is a rubber hose attached to a fuel log with a clamp. And don't forget the turkey pan on the red one. In my mind, these small items mean more $$ to build the red one and more attention to detail, and that's just from looking at the engine pics. Who knows what else you'd find after inspecting the whole car?
That's my .02
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03-17-2004, 11:00 AM
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In the majority of states, a 65-66 Ford title (or whatever, year is the factor) is an ADVANTAGE, because it allows you to register it as "historic or antique" and avoids safety and emissions inspections.
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$239 per year for full coverage on my vette!
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03-17-2004, 11:08 AM
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$239 per year for full coverage on my vette!
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That is more than my agreed upon value Cobra coverage!
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