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Old 05-23-2007, 08:18 PM
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Default Backdraft VS. Superformance???

Looking at a new Backdraft cobra.How does it compare to a Superformance?Which is considered better so to speak?
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Which is considered better so to speak?
Superformance.
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A search on past threads will tell you everything you need to know. Unless, you want to stir up some sh!t.

If so.......Dave, start popping.
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:02 PM
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People that say Superformance haven't driven both. Backdraft is a better handling car with out question. The choice greatly depends on what you want/ how are you going to use it.
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Old 05-24-2007, 05:04 AM
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Backdraft is a better handling car with out question.

Rwillia4...Is that because you own one ??? yet, you have not driven an SPF.


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Old 05-24-2007, 05:13 AM
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See if you can get both cars side by side! even better have both on racks to look at the detail work of both cars. That might help. both makes are great cars and what ever you decide you will never regret getting a COBRA.
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Come to LCS next month and try them out side by side. Drive one home
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I take it you've driven both. How is the Backdraft "a better handling car without question"?
I'm not baiting - I'm genuinely curious.
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In the interest of not starting anything....BDR's have been repeatedly handicapped (by running more laps) during cobra racing events to try to keep the field equal.
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Old 05-23-2007, 09:31 PM
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I'm not trying to start anything either. I'm just curious for some data other than subjective.
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And neither comes close to an ERA!
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Backdraft is a better handling car with out question.
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BDR's have been repeatedly handicapped (by running more laps) during cobra racing events to try to keep the field equal.
Rwillia4,
There are other Cobra manufactures that are Better than BDR for road racing.
I would have to go with Factory Five for road racing.
Several reasons: Initial cost, ease of repairs if something should happen and they already have a Spec Racing Cobra unlike BDR at this time.


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As for drag race , Factory Five or Lone Star might be the companys to go with.
They Both offer a solid axle rearend combination for their kit.
Most don't prefer FF or LS because it doesn't look exactly like the original Cobra.
But you already know this!

It your money, choose what fits your need.
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Default The Business Challenge

All discussions regarding quality aside, Backdraft can give you a roller built in South Africa for around $28.5k. SPF offers essentially the same package (remember I am not getting into a discussion regarding the quality black hole) for around $41k.

NET-NET, from a pure business perspective and taking a commodity view of the subject, SPF is likely going to be challenged right or wrong, in holding the line on pricing. I would suggest that some of the churn regarding ownership of SPF perhaps might reflect this reality.

Again, no discussion pertaining to relative quality of either vehicle.

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Rwillia4,
There are other Cobra manufactures that are Better than BDR for road racing.
I would have to go with Factory Five for road racing.
Several reasons: Initial cost, ease of repairs if something should happen and they already have a Spec Racing Cobra unlike BDR at this time.


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As for drag race , Factory Five or Lone Star might be the companys to go with.
They Both offer a solid axle rearend combination for their kit.
Most don't prefer FF or LS because it doesn't look exactly like the original Cobra.
But you already know this!

It your money, choose what fits your need.Rich

It depends on how nice you want it to look. A FF will need a lot more work to get the body in nice shape. I was at a body shop who does them for a local builder. The painter told me that he ususally has 2 or 3 guys working on one for a month to a month and a half. I saw one they had in there that just arrived from FF. It was rough. Im not bashing the cars beacuse some are nice but in the end for equal cars I dont think there is really that big of price difference.
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Default Have you even looked and the Kirkham?

I will say it again.... put the two cars side by side and compare!! then put them on a rack and compare!!! then drive both!!!! then check the savings, checking and brokerage account and see what kind of damage you want to do!!

What engines have you considered? Sh*t do you want to spent $3500 or $26K.. have you even looked and the Kirkham? ..... that should keep the pot stirred!!!

compare the cars and decide what you want to spend. that's it ...

What do I know... I spent tooo much just for my value covers!! according to some!!
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The standard BMW, er BDR, comes with an open differential. If your drag racing add the cost of a rear end upgrade to the price.
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Nice looking, a relative term at best. Show quality? Daily driver? Inexpensive race car? So many variables. What is a 'nice looking' race car?

Dick Smiths 198 car comes to mind. Original wheels on an original car, no 'wings', no 'air dams', no 'front spoilers', no freakish roll cage/roll bars. CLEAN lines, looks MEAN, goes fast, now THATS what I'm talking about! Put wings, dams and spoilers on a Cobra and you get some kind of 'hot rod', buy a Mustang and knock yourself out if you like that stuff. It destroys the look of a Cobra in my opinion.

Cobras at events like Run and Gun with aero effects should not be allowed to race, period. Spec Racers like the FFR series have their own event, go for it! BDR's doctored up with aero crap should run in their own group.


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To me a nice looking car does not have noticable depressions and chips in the fiberglass. It should be smooth with finished edges and the seams should line up reasonably well and be the same height. The gaps do not have to be perfect but should not be so obvious as to draw your attention. You will need some significant body work on a FF to achieve this. Again, to all the factory five owners I am not knocking your cars as there are many very nice ones out there.
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These "type" of threads always gets near everyone's panties in a knot. This is truly one of those topics that just needs to be answered by visiting a dealer - of which both of these brands have. Both are nice cars - personal preference in styling detail deviations and drivelines are key differences.

BTW, that fella was right ERA is in a different class - right between the bottom to mid market cars.
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JC. You're on Long Island I believe, so you should be able to visit a Superformance Dealer, and a BDR dealer not too far away, and If I were you, I'd include a visit to New Britain, Ct., to the ERA factory. Peter at ERA is a great guy and really helpful. That would give you an overview of 3 very good prospects. I have friends with Superformance, Backdraft, and ERA and all are fun cars to drive, with each having it's own characteristics. Learn as much as you can about each one, and make an informed decision, based on what YOU want to do with the car. The research and learning about the cars is definitely part of the fun. Enjoy DRIVING whatever you decide on. Rick D
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