Dissed by a fellow Cobra owner WTF

[4RE KLR]

Hey it is not just check writers with Cobras or Street Rods or Choppers. It is the same type of clown we all have to deal with in Life. There will always be those that "think" they are better than everyone else. When in reality they "think" they know so much about everything that they do not know $hi!!! about anything.

My hat is off to you. You did the right thing.

Hey even if it was the worse built kit Cobra on the road what gives someone else the right to talk down to someone who is just out trying to enjoy the day. We are all different and we all do not have fat checkbooks for toys. We al love the cars or we wouldn't be here. We are all doing the best we can with what we have to enjoy the Cobra (or picture of one) that we have.



Kristen,
Yep, Even though you bought yours I am sure you could do anything you set your mind to. Nothing seems to stop you and your attitude about these cars and everyone in TCC and CC is second to none.

[Power Surge]

My thoughts on what's been posted thus far....

- Obviously these three guys were total A-holes with an extreme lack of respect for their fellow man. No matter what brand of car you drive, no matter how much better you "think" your car is than someone else's, that kind of attitude is uncalled for and just plain rude.

- I don't believe the builder vs check writer deal. I know people from both sides that have done or said some stupid things. There is nothing wrong with paying someone else to build your dream. Not everyone has the talent to do so, and that does not mean they don't have the right to have something they dream of.

- I do agree that people who travel in packs tend to let their oats out more then if they were alone, usually trying to be cool in front of the group.

- I do agree with Rich's post, in the sense that most replicas are not accurate representations of original cars, and that DOES dilute the info, and knowledge of the general public to what original cars really look like. HOWEVER, I do NOT agree that any blame should be layed on the owners of those cars. Obviously, many people just don't care about that, and they build their cars how they like. If the general public doesn't want to do their homework as to what original Cobra's really are, it's their own fault, not the owners of the "uncorrect" Cobra replicas.

Really what it comes down to, is that there just is no general statement or description of this type of person, as it relates to being a Cobra owner. They were A-holes because they were A-holes, not because they were Cobra owners.

[xlr8or]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Keep it on track...this thread is about a$$holes.

Thank you all for your cooperation.

That is the best post on this thread.

[jwoodard]

We meet people like this in all walks of life. They are A$$holes, no doubt about it. My hat is off to you for just walking away and letting them bask in their glory (?).
What idiots. Life is just too short to even have to worry about people who act like this.

[Traveller]

Hey, I'm a "check writer". Everyone who owns an ERA is becasue Peter won't take credit cards.

I'm about to write some more to ERA. Can someone tell me how to stop?

Nice story Mr. M.

[Snake Psychosis]

I have read, and re-read most of the posts on this thread, and I feel I have to make some amendments. Firstly, it was not my intention to lump "check writers" together as a whole. Rather, it has simply been my experience that most of these a$$holes that I have encountered, HAPPEN to also be check writers. It was not my intent to convey the thought that being a "check writer" automatically imbues one with the characteristic of a$$hole as well. That is simply not the case.

Personally, I feel that if one is a decent enough person, AND has the ability to cut the check as well, more power to them. I only intended to convey the concept of being a "check writer" as merely potentially contributory, rather than causal in nature.

Myself...well, I rarely 'cut the check', I typically travel alone as opposed to being in packs, I appreciate cars in whatever form they come in, and I acknowledge the fact that I pretty much know diddly-squat about most anything...actually, I'm beginning to lower my standards to the point that as long as I leave the house with pants on, it's going to be a pretty good day.

(but I'm still an a$$hole...ask my father...or Norain, for that matter!)

[MaSnaka]

Man...someone sure pushed some buttons on this thread. I would like to add that this group you encountered are by far in the minority. I personally find car enthusiasts to be free talking and some of the nicest people, albeit strangers mostly, that you can hope to meet. It really doesn't matter what brand car you drive, or how you pay for for it, but how you treat it. Respect goes a long way. Peace!

John

[richsd]

Originally Posted by Power Surge

- I do agree with Rich's post, in the sense that most replicas are not accurate representations of original cars, and that DOES dilute the info, and knowledge of the general public to what original cars really look like. HOWEVER, I do NOT agree that any blame should be layed on the owners of those cars. Obviously, many people just don't care about that, and they build their cars how they like. If the general public doesn't want to do their homework as to what original Cobra's really are, it's their own fault, not the owners of the "uncorrect" Cobra replicas.

Sure it is the general public's own fault for not doing their homework. But I am really not attempting to assign blame. Just commenting on the fact that this redefinition has taken place as a result of the tremendous inaccuracy of many Cobra replicas. Regardless of where the responsibility lies, it is just an unfortunate fact that this has taken place.

[Jamo]

Originally Posted by Snake Psychosis

I have read, and re-read most of the posts on this thread, and I feel I have to make some amendments. Firstly, it was not my intention to lump "check writers" together as a whole. Rather, it has simply been my experience that most of these a$$holes that I have encountered, HAPPEN to also be check writers. It was not my intent to convey the thought that being a "check writer" automatically imbues one with the characteristic of a$$hole as well. That is simply not the case.

Personally, I feel that if one is a decent enough person, AND has the ability to cut the check as well, more power to them. I only intended to convey the concept of being a "check writer" as merely potentially contributory, rather than causal in nature.

Myself...well, I rarely 'cut the check', I typically travel alone as opposed to being in packs, I appreciate cars in whatever form they come in, and I acknowledge the fact that I pretty much know diddly-squat about most anything...actually, I'm beginning to lower my standards to the point that as long as I leave the house with pants on, it's going to be a pretty good day.

(but I'm still an a$$hole...ask my father...or Norain, for that matter!)

Interesting that you feel confident enough in knowing this site and it's personalities to be even offering an opinion at this juncture, however, to each his or her own, and welcome to the site.

We will withhold our opinion of you until you've been around a while longer.

[RACERAL]

Point being Bill, its a "people" issue, not a FFR issue. I know you are a clevor "spokesperson" i.e. (kool aid drinkers, perky trunk lid and all, round tube comments). Every hobby in the world has the "mine's better then yours folks". It's just as simple as that.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by RACERAL

Point being Bill, its a "people" issue, not a FFR issue. I know you are a clevor "spokesperson" i.e. (kool aid drinkers, perky trunk lid and all, round tube comments). Every hobby in the world has the "mine's better then yours folks". It's just as simple as that.

Al,

Point being I did not out and out say whay you thought, nor did I myself diss anyone in return but instead took the high road and kept my mouth shut. As for my comments about perky butt, yes, that was to clue members in to who's kit those three were driving as they disgraced your ownership group with their rude and uneducated remarks. It could just as easily been a pack of ERA,SPF, CSX4000, or Kirkham owners, but in this case it was not, it was a pack of under educate FFR owners. If anything, I was not doing it to embarrass or point out the brand, but to perhaps wake some of the FFR (SPF,ERA,Kirkham,CSX4000) owners up who are indeed "blinded by brand loyalty". The round tube comment was not mine, but theirs, and they repeated it without even looking underneath the car, just assuming because the body shape was not like their own that it had an "inferior" (implied and hawked by Dave and Mark Smith to sell kits, but not an accurate statement) square tube chassis. Again I am not putting the FFR brand down at all, just some of it's owners and an attitude that has gotten worse over the years. You as an active member of your circle of cobra owners and an FFR owner should use this example and educate the member of your group to not judge a book by it's cover. Also, I read your comment late last night on FFcobra where you yourself state "Kinda funny" with a link to this thread. What was so funny about a group of Cobra owners showed their ignorance and prejudice to another cobra owner (driver in this case)? Seems to me as if you were trying to make light of a terrible situation and event. Imagine how many other events like this take place that we never hear about and how it turns some people off to not only the hobby, but the cars and their owner groups as well. Guess if you were there, and you were in my shoes at the time you might feel as I do. At this time it is clear to me that you do not. Either way I wish you well.

Sincerely,

Bill S.

[larryar]

Fortunetly, a$$holes like MM encountered are pretty rare in the Cobra community. At least that has been my experience. I think most of us can appreciate that a fellow cobra owner is a member of our community and regardless of the make or physical appearance of their car they are one of "us". I tend to be a tradionalist when it comes to cobras......blue with white stripes....go figure, but I can appreciate wild paint jobs or unusual color schemes and I really don't care what make you have, it's the enthusiasm that counts. The best example is the London show. Every make and model in every color imaginable just having a good time. That's what it is all about!
Larry

[Tony Aprile]

Originally Posted by RACERAL

its a "people" issue, not a FFR issue.

I believe thats a true statement, A while back at a local cruise nite I had a new owner with a very highend Cobra replica come up to my spf with another fellow and pic my car apart right in front of me...

A check writer or builder... I don't think it has anything thing to do with it...the point being whether your a...well you know !!!

[SKINNEDR]

After 28 years of dreaming and finally becoming a Backdraft owner, mann it is hard to believe that other cobra owners can be like that. Is that something I will have to look forward to? Based on my short experience as a owner I was under the impression that all cobra owners were something special and was the most polite people I have ever met. I am very sorry that anyone would have to indure such abuse. Glad to see that you were able to maintain your cool and exhibit such class by not reacting to their stupidity.

Just unbelievable
Dexter Skinner
BDR #471

[lamaluv]

There are assholes everywhere and they are mostly all the same. Usually know it alls that are trying to impress thier friends. I had my car at a outdoor show were people can get up close and personal with the cars. Up walks three guys with their girlfriends (impessing the girls really bring out the asshole) one guy starts telling the group that my car isn't "real" and what is wrong with it. Unlike MM I get pissed and tell him he must really know a lot about Cobras to be able to tell the differance and ask him what kind of car he drives. One of the girls just starts laughing and says he drives a Pinto and he read that the Cobra was a replica on my car info sheet. Then the whole group started laughing at him. I almost felt sorry for him, almost. It is nice when a asshole trying to impress gets a dose of his own medicine.

Dick

[LuvDaBlues]

After an episode in Tulsa, and reading this thread, I need a ruling on my actions, along the same subject.

I'm quite new to this whole Cobra scene (only a year with my car), so I have to look under the hood for the manuf. plates to see what's what. (Keep that in mind, and don't berate me later in this post for lack of knowledge) I'm walking through the pre-stage of the Tulsa Mid-America car show, and I strike up a conversation with a gentleman with an original '65. Great guy, lots of information, even though I'm beating him down with questions he's probably answered 1000 times. Good example of a "good Cobra guy".

All the cars are shuffled into the parking lot, where the organizers place all the originals and new Shelby Americans on one side of the show, while all the replicas are on the other. Walking the replica line, sticking my head under all the hoods, I run across an SA plate. I ask the young guy why he isn't over with the CSX's. He gave me some bad excuse, but I wasn't going for it. After about a minute of bantering with him, my buddy looked under and said it wasn't a SA, but an older replica with an aftermarket manuf. plate. I kind of chuckled at him and said "don't misrepresent your car". He never admitted it was not a CSX. That stuff just bugs the hell out of me.

Now my wife called me the a$$ for this.

[mrmustang]

Guys,

Before I recieve any more "fan mail" this could have easily been Unique, SPF, Backdraft,ERA,Contemporary,B&B, Kirkham,CSX4000 owners but it was not. The fact that I singled out FFR owners in this case is strictly because that is what they were driving and the comments made by them where those that I have heard and read on the forums before. If it was another "pack" of rude and abusive cobra owners and the mix was one of each, I would have stated that as well. The fact is that this happened, the fact is that this will happen to others in the future. The fact is that we, as people with a love for these machines, if we should hear this type of attitude coming from someone we know, should attempt to put a peaceful stop to this "bigotry".


Bill S.

[Snake Psychosis]

Originally Posted by Jamo

Interesting that you feel confident enough in knowing this site and it's personalities to be even offering an opinion at this juncture, however, to each his or her own, and welcome to the site.

We will withhold our opinion of you until you've been around a while longer.

Hmm...interesting to think that one would need permission or tenure to have an opinion...silly me. I'll go back and sit at the kids table now.

[JWheaton]

One time, when I was a kid, going to band camp I was riding my Schwinn bicycle and a kid riding a Huffy bicycle said something mean about my bike. I did not say anything to him but I did I ride my bike into and over him.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by JWheaton

One time, when I was a kid, going to band camp I was riding my Schwinn bicycle and a kid riding a Huffy bicycle said something mean about my bike. I did not say anything to him but I did I ride my bike into and over him.

Having met you in person I can only imagine that scenario and the fact the other bicycle rider was not even a small speed bump under your assault