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07-09-2007, 02:09 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Corona del Mar,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR MKIII, FMS BOSS 302 "B" cam
Posts: 170
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Sheesh you guys...
I think the whole point of the thread was to show that some guys need to "wise-up" before they make cracks about other people's cars, especially if they own a replica themselves!
I'm a proud FFR owner, but I'd never badmouth another Cobra, period. Those guys were idiots, period. And to quote the lovely Julia Roberts, they "probably have d***s they size of peanuts."
Rumble on brothers (and sisters!)
PS Bill I miss seeing your posts on the other forum. Nice to "see" you again.
Last edited by CNGreen; 07-09-2007 at 02:12 PM..
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07-09-2007, 02:15 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Fairfield, NJ, USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: A & C, 351W, Tremec 3550. Exiled Member: Club Cranky
Posts: 5,897
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Roscoe
"Crisis occurs when women and cattle get excited!"....James Thurber
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07-09-2007, 02:33 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: The Panhandle,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR carbed 302
Posts: 13
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I do mixed-marque track days with my FFR. On the occassions when other Cobra drivers show up, we enjoy looking-over each other's cars for the cheatin-bastage tricks that we think will help us against the modern day production cars. No matter who the manufacturer, or if it was built in a home garage or not, we share a bit of a bond in tracking a car that when driven near the edge can be quick to bite you in the asz. Obviously you ran across a couple of knuckleheads, and I don't know how you kept from cracking up at the comments they made. But you'll have to explain the kool aid thing...maybe that'll piss me off.
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bs
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07-09-2007, 02:47 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Fairfield, NJ, USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: A & C, 351W, Tremec 3550. Exiled Member: Club Cranky
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I believe it was me who originally coined the Kool-Aid term for some of the FFR guys after the Jim Jones, Jonestown party. It seems that whenever someone has even the slightest sincere critical comment about FFR's they circle the wagons. Many seem to have a very myopic view of things and will not open their minds to outside opinions.
I mean, just go over there and post, say, "Boy, those bodies really suck." and see what happens. Or say, "Wow, those Unique Cobras have a great chassis."
I have been on that forum for about 7 years and have seen the wagons circled many times over honest questions or comments.
So the Kool-Aid comment is to define SOME people who have just blind faith and small, narrow minds.
Roscoe
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"Crisis occurs when women and cattle get excited!"....James Thurber
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07-09-2007, 02:47 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Cobra Make, Engine: SPC #0039, 427R Roush
Posts: 83
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Look at the amount of press these boneheads generated. Might be time to stick a fork in it...or them...
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07-09-2007, 03:03 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Rehoboth Beach,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR Daytona Coupe done to replicate CSX-2299 at the '64 LeMans
Posts: 641
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There's no question that those guys Bill met are complete jerks and, you're right, they could have been driving any other brand car, but they were driving FFR's and Bill made a point to let everyone know they were driving FFR's...........
I am embarassed that someone would do what those jerks did. I am more embarassed that they happened to be driving a brand of replica that I have. I guess my point is that the story would have been just as effective without associating any particular brand with their actions.
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07-09-2007, 03:06 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Shasta Lake,
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Cobra Make, Engine:
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Roscoe,
I don't post at all on the FFR Forum for the very reasons you stated. I have had other makes and liked them just as well and I like all cars period, I don't care who or what made them. Since I can't afford an original Cobra, I just tell people that mine is a replica of a kit.
Ron
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07-09-2007, 03:24 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance
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Bill,
This has really touched a nerve with lots of folks.
It is really unfortunate to know that a Cobra owner(s) would dis another's ride. We are all really proud of what we have. The marketplace has all manner of solutions to our desire to have this dream car. Every one of these cars is the right answer for someone. In my case (typical I think), I checked the market out for a couple of years before I pulled the trigger and bought. Sure I ruled out some cars because they were not right for me. But I don't understand dissing the guy who bought something else.
This is all the more outrageous since you were driving a real one!! The Holy Grail!!
Jack
ps - It is also interesting to see an element who refer to folks like me in a disparaging manner as "check writers" because I did not build my car. I wish I had the skill and time needed to do it, but I do not. It is a mistake to think that I am not a true sports car nut, or do not "understand" because I did not build it. I have wanted a Cobra since I was fifteen years old. I have owned and loved numerous other great sports cars, but this was the one I truly wanted all along. Originals cost too much. The marketplace for "replicas" gave me a second chance. People who write checks for these things "get it".
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07-09-2007, 03:27 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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...some of the Q&A on this thread should have been done via PM or offline.
I think most understood the underlying point of Bill's anecdote.
I don't want to see this devolve into a brand bashing dialog, with the need for pro's and con's to be posted.
Let's leave it at that. Post on the issue only.
thanks
ron
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07-09-2007, 04:24 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Santa Maria,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 2001 SPF, Sold =(
Posts: 300
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I can't even imagine driving a real one... let alone drive one a friend owns! VERY cool!! I love my SPF, but just the feeling of knowing you are in a real piece of history has got to add another element of "WOW" to the drive.
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07-09-2007, 04:51 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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As I noted early on...this thread is about a$$holes, and not about the cars they drive.
Keep it that way.
Example: Evan has a nice Cobra.
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07-09-2007, 05:03 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: God's country,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Original ERA 427sc, Powered by Gessford
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I think it was probably Bill and not the car he was driving that bothered them.
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07-09-2007, 05:06 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Morristown,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #623 460/4x2
Posts: 858
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If I saw Bill driving I would make fun of him too....easy target.
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07-09-2007, 05:14 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: SF East Bay,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roscoe
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Now THAT was funny!!!
And Bill, Sorry for double dog daring you to post it elsewhere.
Seems like it generated a ton more heat with the thin skinned than was really necessary.
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07-09-2007, 05:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by marcocsx3121
Not a lot has changed since the days when every Cobra on the road was "real". I can recall a particularly obnoxious 427-owning surgeon who loudly pointed out that my newly acquired 9-1/2" Halibrands had a couple of spots of casting flash on the inner surface, and therefore were not worthy of being mounted on my car. I wasn't immune from engaging in this kind of semi-good natured banter: I enjoyed heaping abuse on a certain gentleman who went on to become the exalted high poobah of a VERY well known car club because of the phony side pipes on his 289.
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I can relate to this ... Good story's on both Ahhhh the good ol days
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427 CSX 3000/4000 and Shelbys.
All gone ! Was a Hell of a run
Now ... The dogs car
Mercedes E63S station wagon. 603hp
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07-09-2007, 05:41 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlueRooster
If I saw Bill driving I would make fun of him too....easy target.
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And this from the man driving a "yellow" cobra
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07-09-2007, 06:03 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Cupertino,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Classic CCX 3970: 1965 427 Cobra S/C, Shelby aluminum 427 CSX 290 (468 cu in) engine
Posts: 789
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This has been a most entertaining thread. While I have worked on all my cars in the past, I didn't have the time nor inclination to build my own Cobra, so I did a fair amount of research and decided on a replica that was close to the original, a Contemporary. After having big fun for about three months, the 390FE (it was supposed to be a 428) engine broke broke and I looked around for a "real" 427 sideoiler. I didn't have much luck and decided to bite the bullet and spring for a more reliable and nasty aluminum Shelby 427 "replica" engine. Of course, that meant I needed to upgrade to a 31-spline top loader, heavy duty suspension and much more. So while I didn't build this car myself, I have learned a lot about it by "rebuilding" much of it. My car is less "original" than it was, but it is a lot stronger and meaner.
I remember going in with just a bit of an attitude when I compared my beast with other Cobras that just "didn't look right." Fortunately, I have gotten to know a number of other Cobra owners and now appreciate their cars as I do mine. My car isn't perfect, but it works for me. And my buddies' cars work for them. But if I met someone with phony sidepipes, I'd really have to bite my lip! Rich
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07-09-2007, 06:36 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF #623 460/4x2
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Its not yellow...its bright gold...or something
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07-09-2007, 06:44 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
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07-09-2007, 06:59 PM
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Location: Truckee and Kailua,
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Cobra Make, Engine: B&B 351/402 Fi roller everything
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just try living without a cobra before you diss someone else's.
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