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08-17-2007, 01:19 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
Posts: 10,362
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Kirkham Registry information needed.
Attention all present and prior Kirkham owners.
In conjunction with Kirkham Motorsports, , the Kirkham Owners Club site, is gathering current information on the present and prior owners of any Kirkham Motorsports product.
This information will be collected and published in a Registry format, both online and in printed form.
The club site has used a "beta" online Registry, but some software quirks have caused it to be taken offline.
That will be fixed with a new version, but rather than wait for the online version, we need to begin collecting information now.
If you are a present or prior owner and you would like your information to be included in the Registry, please send an e-mail to registry@kmsac.com
Please use your KMP number as the Message Subject.
Present owners should include personal data (contact info) and dates and details about your car.
Prior owners should include dates of ownership and any specific items of interest about the car while it was in your possession. If you are the original owner, please indicate that.
As a prior owner, information on who you sold the car to would be helpful.
Very important - If you are a present or prior owner and would NOT like your personal data included for publication, please send a message indicating this fact.
It is very important that we get this raw data as quickly as possible....so, don't delay....dash out a quick message.
The Online Registry will have provisions for photos and more comprehensive data, and we can always get that from you at a later date.
We need the data now to begin scaling the project for publication....again send info to registry@kmsac.com
I would be glad to answer any questions....thanks
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08-17-2007, 02:16 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: San Diego,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine:
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message sent.
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Remember, It's never too early to start beefing up your obituary.
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08-17-2007, 05:43 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Provo,
Ut
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
Posts: 6,990
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Thanks Ron,
Here is what I can add for now.
KMPS001 Thomas Kirkham
KMPS002 used to restore an original 289 Cobra
KMPS003 Hall Fabrication and Racing
KMPS004 Hall Fabrication and Racing
KMPS005 Kimmons Coach Craft, sold as a chassis only to be used to repair an original 289 Cobra.
KMPS006 used to restore and original 289 Cobra
KMPS008 Shelby
KMPS009 Shelby
KMPS011 Shelby
KMPS012 Shelby
KMPS013 Shelby
KMPS014 Shelby
KMPS015 Shelby
KMPS016 Shelby
KMPS017 Shelby
KMPS018 Shelby
KMPS019 Shelby
KMPS020 Shelby
KMPS021 Shelby
KMPS030 Kirkham donated this car to Cystic Fibrosis to raise money to defeat the disease.
KMP001 Crown Coachworks
KMP012 Poland, unexpectedly
KMP013 not used, the Poles thought it would bring bad luck to make the car.
KMP019 Poland, unexpectedly
KMP020 Thomas Kirkham Jr. , completed extremely close to an original car. Original suspension, brushed aluminum finish. Thomas told Kirkham workers one day he loved flames...so, when he left for lunch, his car got "flamed." Thomas drives it at Kirkham events. It has open pipes and so David Kirkham refuses to drive it. Dave Dralle built the motor. FE 427--427 cubic inches, iron block side oiler with all the right pieces.
KMP046 David Kirkham, completed extremely close to an original car. Original suspension, brushed aluminum finish with "Ghost Stripes." David used to drive this car at all Kirkham events but now prefers to drive the later, lighter cars. Dave Dralle built the motor. FE 427--stroked to 454 cubic inches, iron block side oiler with all the right pieces. At Kirkham's last track event David left the keys in the ignition and anyone could drive it who wanted to drive it.
KMP0204 Donated by Kirkham to benefit the hospital at Ground Zero which cared for victims of the 9-11 terrorist attacks. Car was auctioned off on eBay during the New York Auto Show. Many Cobra Club members (and Kirkham customers) helped to show the car. Kirkham received an enormous amount of help from Steve Sunshine and Ron Richards to organize the event.
KMP502 Cinema Vehicles used in the filming of a movie that is not yet released.
KMP503 Cinema Vehicles used in the filming of a movie that is not yet released
KMP0526 used to repair a wrecked Kirkham
I will add more tomorrow.
David
Last edited by David Kirkham; 08-17-2007 at 05:49 PM..
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08-17-2007, 07:25 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
Posts: 10,362
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Thanks, David.
If anyone here knows a present or former KMP owner that is not active on the forums, please let them know about the project and pass along the e-mail address to them.
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08-17-2007, 11:12 PM
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Super Moderator
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
Posts: 14,445
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Sent...pics and info at site (as you well know).
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Jamo
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08-18-2007, 08:51 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
Posts: 10,362
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jamo
...pics and info at site (as you well know).
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Thanks... just what I need. We will be taking the info that has already been loaded into the old Online Registry.
...still need to hear from everyone to get approval for inclusion in the printed version.
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08-18-2007, 09:45 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Provo,
Ut
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
Posts: 6,990
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KMP322 Stainless steel show chassis at Kirkham's shop.
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08-18-2007, 10:09 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Provo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
Posts: 6,990
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KMP038 bare chassis, no body
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08-18-2007, 11:39 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Provo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
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KMP092 Sold as a bare frame and body. Customer then sold the chassis to another customer who cut off the aluminum body and sub-structure and placed it onto a Shelby CSX4000 fiberglass car. The fiberglass CSX4000 body and sub-structure was then welded onto the remaining KMP092 ladder frame chassis. The Shelby CSX4000 fiberglass body and KMP092 ladder frame combo was advertised for sale for quite some time and changed hands at least one other time before it was eventually sold to a customer in Brazil.
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08-19-2007, 01:14 PM
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Super Moderator
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Kirkham
KMP092 Sold as a bare frame and body. Customer then sold the chassis to another customer who cut off the aluminum body and sub-structure and placed it onto a Shelby CSX4000 fiberglass car. The fiberglass CSX4000 body and sub-structure was then welded onto the remaining KMP092 ladder frame chassis. The Shelby CSX4000 fiberglass body and KMP092 ladder frame combo was advertised for sale for quite some time and changed hands at least one other time before it was eventually sold to a customer in Brazil.
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So, in other words, it became a FFR?
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08-19-2007, 01:30 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Tucson,
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I'd like to know more about the "movie" 502 and 503 are being used in. Any further info?
Larry
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08-20-2007, 07:33 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Provo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
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Larry,
We can't comment until the movie is released--but I have no doubt you have heard of it. They were very nice people to deal with.
David
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08-20-2007, 07:50 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Provo,
Ut
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
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KMP444
Aluminum 40 Ford body and substructure. Used as a prototype to make the Copper 40 Ford GT. The body was made by hand to figure out the parting lines on where to join the panels together because copper only come in 1 x 2 meter sheets in Poland whereas aluminum sheets come in sizes all the way to 2 x 4 meters. Also, the body was used to make sure the wheels and tires from a 2006 Ford GT would fit--which they did not, so the copper car had to be widened while in production. After the Copper car was done, KMP444 was sold on eBay.
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08-22-2007, 06:30 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: BAKERSFIELD,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP241 427 S/C 482 Shelby
Posts: 483
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Kirkham Registry
KMP218X 289 FIA HYBRID (early hybrid)
5 bolt 289 w/David Kee rebuilt toploader, Jag rear end, polished body, not quite finished but I've put about 2300 miles on it.
KMP241 427 ROADSTER started as bare frame, I bought KIRKHAM body from Alan English in Portland. It's now a roller being prepared for paint. Has S/O, David Kee aluminum top loader, Jag rearend........see gallery,,,,,Ron
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08-22-2007, 06:55 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Provo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
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It has been really cool to see where all of our cars have gone and all of the cool people and things that have happened to them over the years. I can't believe we started in 1995. That is a lot of paperwork to go through! Glad to see another one on the road Ron!
David
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08-22-2007, 06:58 PM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Palm Coast,
FL
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 4241 - authentically built
Posts: 2,573
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E-mailed my info on KMP357. I know it was part of a two car deal that "fell through" for a piece of large shop equipment. Maybe David can chime in on what the second car was to be traded and what the piece of equipment was .
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Sal Mennella
CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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08-22-2007, 08:30 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2003
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edit: 9/3/2007
KMP479 has a new owner and is now in NY, Rochester area.
end edit
Click here for all pictures:
Details:
Body:
• Show quality brushed aluminum finish with polished stripes
• Powder coated rear bulkhead and wheel wells
• Wheel well foam
• Stainless steel heat shields on foot boxes
• Powder coated steel frame
• Stainless steel roll bar
• Lightweight aluminum jack hooks (bumpers)
Mechanical:
• Kirkham aluminum differential with 3.42 gears and Auburn limited slip
• Differential breather system
• Drive shaft, heavy duty half shafts and driveshaft safety loop
• Stainless steel steering shafts and u-joints
• Penske shocks with Hyperco coil springs
• Wilwood brakes front and rear with heavy duty front brake option (1.25 inch thick rotors)
• Pusher fan assembly as per original Cobras (in addition to high volume puller fan)
Interior:
• Wool carpet and floor mats
• Adjustable seat tracks on both sides
• Kirkham billet aluminum pedal assembly
• Leather over aluminum dash
• 6 point seat belts
• Fresh air ventilation system on both sides with electric 170 CFM blowers
• Vintage Air Heater with 3 speed fan
• New custom electronic analog period correct gauges with Peak Speed Memory in speedometer
• Fuel level in speedometer display
• Custom tonnel cover
Other Options/Features:
• Brake cooling ducts
• Billet aluminum fuel tank straps
• Steel side pipes and headers (ceramic coated)
• Billet brake and clutch reservoirs
• High volume Holley HP125 fuel pump with prefilter
• Drycell Odyssey, trunk mounted battery with battery cut off switch
• Avon tires - 295-50VR-15 rear and 245-60VR-15 fronts
• Trunk mounted fire extinguisher
• Stainless steel, powder coated surge tank (more durable than the original brass)
• Aluminum radiator catch tank
Engine: Keith Craft Racing built Shelby aluminum FE
• Shelby big bore aluminum block (CSX 787 - 4.375 bore) & Shelby studs
• Scat forged 4340 H-beam rods
• Scat billet crankshaft (4.375 stroke)
• Diamond pistons with plasma moly rings
• Heat treated bearings
• Melling oil pump with ford racing oil pump drive
• Comp cams hydraulic roller camshaft
• Edelbrock FE heads, ported and polished, stage 3 with large valves
• T&D rocker system, comp pushrods, crane lifters
• Shelby front cover
• BHJ damper
• Blue thunder dual plane 427 MR intake
• Aviaid original style 9 quart oil pan
• Quick Fuel Q850 4 barrel carburetor with mechanical secondary's
• Cold air box (turkey pan)
• Stainless steel air cleaner cover with AIRAID performance air filter
• Original style chrome pent roof valve cover with breathers
• MSD distributor, MSD 6AL box with rev control, MSD coil & coil bracket
• Shelby aluminum high volume water pump
• Balanced and blueprinted
• Dyno tested & tuned (Dyno sheets included)
Transmission:
• Tremec TKO600R (.82 OD) with short input shaft for correct fit
• Lakewood bellhousing, indexed for a Kirkham & powder coated black
• Kirkham Tremec shifter assembly
• Custom Kirkham billet aluminum clutch actuation fork setup
• McLeod heavy duty 12 inch clutch assembly with aluminum flywheel
Specifications:
Displacement: 527 cubic inches (8.6 liters)
Bore/stroke: 4.375/4.375
Horsepower: 662 @ 6000 RPM
Torque: 671 ft-lbs @ 4500 RPM
Last edited by rsimoes; 09-03-2007 at 07:27 PM..
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08-22-2007, 09:23 PM
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david
can you please give us the split between the 427 and the 289 cars delivered to shelby, not the vin numbers but the actual number of 427 vs. 289 ? thank you..............sent my info in (kmps013)...............is the 013 myth because of mine??
Last edited by csx700?; 08-22-2007 at 09:41 PM..
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08-23-2007, 07:25 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Provo,
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Sal,
I don't remember what the piece of equipment was. When did you take delivery of your car? Maybe that will shake my memory.
CSX700?,
The "13 myth"
I don't know why they thought KMP013 in the 427 cars was bad luck so they didn't make it, but KMPS013 was not back luck and they did make it. I think it was because KMP013 was actually the 13th car made so they didn't want to make it. Now, why this didn't extend to car KMP014 which actually WAS the 13th car to be made...
Oh well, who knows. I so young and dumb in business, (business laws, foreign laws, US laws, foreign taxes like you can't believe, US taxes like you can't believe, contracts, suppliers, etc.). I was only focused on getting cars done and I was happy to get cars at the time so I didn't pay much attention.
David
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08-23-2007, 08:11 AM
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Palm Coast,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 4241 - authentically built
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Quote:
Originally Posted by David Kirkham
Sal,
I don't remember what the piece of equipment was. When did you take delivery of your car? Maybe that will shake my memory.
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I started discussing getting a car from you towards the end of 2004, which is when you said KMP357 became available.
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CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold
See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
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