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08-29-2007, 08:24 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Prince Frederick,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427 S/C 427 FE S.O. 484 cu in
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Originally Posted by Jamo
Of course, there was a colonial posterior in the left seat of Sir Wilfred's Crendon several years before yours, and the owner of said hind quarters also had the bloody foresight to take a picture of the "engineering marvel" in its native surrounds. 
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I thought the seat was extra comfy. Like dad's old leather recliner. 
Thanks Jamo and great picture.
Wilf wouldn't let me near his home. 
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08-29-2007, 08:35 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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Originally Posted by olddog
My Cobra (that I just purchased) has a HTOB in it - about 2500 miles on it. Now you all have me a little worried about it. Thanks.  |
It's totalled.
As Tony suggests...just drive it. If it fails, then think about changing over.
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08-29-2007, 11:05 PM
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Slave cylinders don't use an O ring, they use a 'cup'. Their failure is generally a result of the edges of the cup literally wearing out over time. Premature failure can occur if the surfaces of the cylinder that the cup moves back and forth in are rough (not smooth). This can happen if moisture gets in the bore and 'sits' there rusting the bottom of the bore and 'tearing' the rubber cup next time you push the clutch in! Result is sudden failure of the slave cylinder due to leaking fluid. Drive home without the clutch (as Jamo noted) and buy another one (their cheap) two bolts, a bleed and your done! Beats the heck out of dropping the trans!
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08-30-2007, 05:34 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Odessa (Tampa),
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 559. 410 Stroker 72 block AFR205 Heads, Solid roller lifters, Comp Cams XR286, Eagle 4" stroke internally balanced with chevy journals, Oliver rods, Probe Forged pistons, Mighty Demon, Super Victor, MSD Digital 6.....
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Guys,
Thanks for the help and recommendations. I scrapped the HTB and went with the included external slave, I made a bracket (thanks Robert from DSCC) that bolts to the trans which holds the slave.
Works like a charm other than the fact of an initial failure (leak) of the brand new slave!!! 20 mins later bolted a new one in its place...
I actually drove my car yesterday, I will wask it, take some pics and post shortly.
Thanks to Ed and Robert from DSCC for all their help over the past few days getting everything together. Steaks and beer on me....
Mark
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08-30-2007, 07:56 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
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Mark,
That was just the ghost of past failed hydraulic TO bearings giving you its last gasp.
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08-30-2007, 08:48 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 559. 410 Stroker 72 block AFR205 Heads, Solid roller lifters, Comp Cams XR286, Eagle 4" stroke internally balanced with chevy journals, Oliver rods, Probe Forged pistons, Mighty Demon, Super Victor, MSD Digital 6.....
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I was telling Ed last night that the slave on my first BDR (#198) never gave me any issues. Thirty mis later, the one on #559 started leaking like a faucet...
Sure glad it was an easy replace as oppose to changing out a HTB...
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08-30-2007, 01:16 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP180 with 428FE and Crendon 427 with Southern Automotive 462 side oiler
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08-30-2007, 07:42 PM
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I had a slave cylinders and it was the pits  hard to push did not feel like a clutch 
So I change it out too a McLeod HTOB and went through the whole nightmare everyone has talked about But now it works Great  I can push my peddle with one finger 
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08-30-2007, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ibr8k4vetts
I had a slave cylinders and it was the pits hard to push did not feel like a clutch
So I change it out too a McLeod HTOB and went through the whole nightmare everyone has talked about But now it works Great I can push my peddle with one finger |
What clutch master cylinder are you using? Mine is a little stiff.
I am using a .75 bore Wilwood.
I figured if I went to a larger bore it would at least shorten the stroke of my peddle. |
08-30-2007, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Naumoff
What clutch master cylinder are you using? Mine is a little stiff.
I am using a .75 bore Wilwood.
I figured if I went to a larger bore it would at least shorten the stroke of my peddle.
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I have a 3/4 Tilton, that should be the same as a .75
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08-30-2007, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Ibr8k4vetts
I have a 3/4 Tilton, that should be the same as a .75 |
Yeah. 
What clutch are you using? |
08-30-2007, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Naumoff
Yeah.
What clutch are you using? |
I think it is a Ram 11.5 with a three finger presser plate
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08-30-2007, 10:14 PM
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I think it is a Ram 11.5 with a three finger presser plate
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Same here. I just need to start working out I guess. |
08-30-2007, 10:26 PM
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Same here. I just need to start working out I guess. |
Cool...next time we leg wrestle.
Honestly, I was worried that going to the slave setup would make for an unbearable clutch action, but it never developed. Appears to be the same push to me. Using a McLeod clutch, with a .75slave on a standard BB fork.
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08-31-2007, 05:19 AM
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Cool...next time we leg wrestle.
Honestly, I was worried that going to the slave setup would make for an unbearable clutch action, but it never developed. Appears to be the same push to me. Using a McLeod clutch, with a .75slave on a standard BB fork. |
Left leg or right?
Clay's and Steve's slaves are easier to push than my HTOB. It's not bad just a work out in stop and go traffic.
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08-31-2007, 11:19 AM
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I would rather put in a 1 inch master cylinder than leg wrestle Jamo.
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08-31-2007, 02:40 PM
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CNC for the slave...
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09-03-2007, 09:21 AM
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I finally got under the car and took some pictures of my slave setup.
There is no bracket. It just inserts through the hole in the bell housing previously used by the clutch cable. I added a thin fiberglass spacer to give it some heat insulation. You have to extent the pull arm to reach the yoke.
Works well but like all hydraulics in the BDR it needs to be flushed out on a regular basis.
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...m/PICT4814.JPG
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/d...m/PICT4810.JPG
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09-03-2007, 09:32 AM
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Nice looking slave... I don't believe I have the ability to do that on the quicktime bellhousing. I ended up using a bracket to mount mine.
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