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08-25-2007, 07:55 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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He!!, I liked mine in 2005. 
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08-25-2007, 08:07 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427 S/C 427 FE S.O. 484 cu in
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08-25-2007, 08:14 PM
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Oh well...can't we call it being "pragmatic?"
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08-27-2007, 07:59 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, 427
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Naumoff,
I was a fool; I was an idiot; I was wrong, I was...what else do you want me to say? It is probably right! Just call me John Kerry.
The units usually blew up about 1 year into ownership...which leads me to my feelings of today! They worked great in the beginning when you first put them in. Anyway, I repent of my error of the past. 
Jamo,
I still like your's.
David
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08-27-2007, 08:06 AM
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Location: Fairfield, NJ, USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: A & C, 351W, Tremec 3550. Exiled Member: Club Cranky
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Mine has been in 7 years and over 25k miles.
Roscoe
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"Crisis occurs when women and cattle get excited!"....James Thurber
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08-27-2007, 08:14 AM
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Roscoe,
I have one that has been in my car for 9 years with no problems (I have more than one car). My brother has had his in that long as well. The problem is they changed something a few years back (I think it was the rubber formulation so they must have changed suppliers) and the new o-rings swell in brake fluid and blow out in about a year. I have taken many of them out lately where the seals are literally falling apart.
Never again!
David
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08-27-2007, 08:15 AM
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David,
I know when we are young we are dumb.  I just turned 40 this year and as I have stated that the next one will have a slave. When the time comes I know I will not want to pull the trans when my seals blow.  10,000 miles on my HTOB and it is two years old and it has been good so far. 
I can not deny if you have a problem that the slave is much easier to work on. |
08-27-2007, 08:21 AM
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Dave,
Who is they? Tilton? McLeod? Mine is a Tilton.
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"Crisis occurs when women and cattle get excited!"....James Thurber
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08-27-2007, 08:23 AM
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I haven't used a Tilton. I hear from many sources they are great. All of our troubles have been from the McLeod.
David
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08-27-2007, 08:45 AM
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I guess I should post here we didn't use the Tilton because they don't (at least they didn't) make a unit that would work with a FE. The distance between the tranny and the pressure plate is very short on an FE and they didn't have a throw out bearing that would fit in the small distance. I don't know if they do now or not.
David
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08-27-2007, 09:05 AM
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I am running a McLeod.
Just goes to show that you can't trust rubbers.
It will only be a matter of time before the seals will have to be replaced.
Hopefully it will last as long as the clutch.
David, The cars you have with no problem, do they get driven a lot?
And do the cars that fail sit a lot?
Just curious. I drive my car every chance I get. I do believe that sitting is bad for a car. |
08-27-2007, 09:40 AM
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David
Tilton has a special Input housing that they made for their t/o bearing and a TKO trans......it is a special order (10 housings at a time) but they work extremely well and last a long time. Just replace the input shaft housing and you are off and running.
We're using the Tilton T/O bearing with a McCleod Magnum clutch and a fly wheel that looks like swiss cheese.......
Like you and many others we tested and worked with the McCleod T/O bearing and could never get it to work with any consistence.....
Morris
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08-27-2007, 10:15 AM
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Tony,
Actually, the cars that blew up were driven quite a bit. My car, and Thomas' car that don't have any problems are hardly driven at all.
Morris,
I will have to look into that! Thanks for the info!
David
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08-27-2007, 12:17 PM
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Yup...McLeod did something.
The first one (when the car was brand spanking new in 2003) went two years without any problems and just an ever so slight drip from the scattershield drain hole.
Decided to put a new one in when we changed the clutch in 2005 just cuz we had the engine/trans out. Violated one of my own phuking rules ("...if it ain't broke..."). The new McLeods were supposed to be mo betto with the banjos, etc.
Had to pull it twice soon thereafter...screw that.
Used another rule to overcome the violation of the first rule. KISS.
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08-27-2007, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by David Kirkham
Tony,
Actually, the cars that blew up were driven quite a bit. My car, and Thomas' car that don't have any problems are hardly driven at all.
Morris,
I will have to look into that! Thanks for the info!
David
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Well there goes my theory...........Thanks a lot David.   |
08-27-2007, 05:50 PM
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A lot of my theories get shot down with data too!
David
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08-27-2007, 07:28 PM
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Naumoff,
I was a fool; I was an idiot; I was wrong, I was...what else do you want me to say? It is probably right! Just call me John Kerry. |
John Kerry would have never admitted he was wrong (only real men do that). He would have said "well I actually hated the HTOB before I liked it, but I only liked it because I was misslead by the Bush admin with manipulated intel, so now that I hate it, my position has not actually changed, and so, I have been perfectly consistent on this issue." |
08-28-2007, 07:32 AM
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Actually it was Jamo who was manipulating the INTEL. HE was Deep Throat giving me the covert INTEL all along! HEY, come to think of it (now that I can see I can actually conjure a way to deflect blame for this) it was actually HIS idea all along! He is the leak; err, HE made them leak! He has spies in the rubber factories just like he does in the strawberry fields. It is not my fault, regardless of what someone else has already quoted me as saying. That wasn't me writing it! This is the work of a vast moderator conspiracy! MA MA!
olddog, THAT was funny!
David
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08-28-2007, 08:54 AM
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throw out
they should be called throwaway bearings THEY SUCK GET IT
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08-28-2007, 11:00 AM
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First they told us the problem was the DOT 4 brake fluid we were using. We changed to DOT 3 and there was no difference--when we pulled the o-rings out (after they failed, of course) they were more bloated than the US budget.
JUST SAY NO! It is way too much work to pull that thing out.
David
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