Hydraulic Throw out bearing

[Jamo]

He!!, I liked mine in 2005.

[Naumoff]

Some people are so wishy washy.

[Jamo]

Oh well...can't we call it being "pragmatic?"

[Roscoe]

Mine has been in 7 years and over 25k miles.

Roscoe

[David Kirkham]

Roscoe,

I have one that has been in my car for 9 years with no problems (I have more than one car). My brother has had his in that long as well. The problem is they changed something a few years back (I think it was the rubber formulation so they must have changed suppliers) and the new o-rings swell in brake fluid and blow out in about a year. I have taken many of them out lately where the seals are literally falling apart.

Never again!

David

[wizard man]

they should be called throwaway bearings THEY SUCK GET IT

[David Kirkham]

First they told us the problem was the DOT 4 brake fluid we were using. We changed to DOT 3 and there was no difference--when we pulled the o-rings out (after they failed, of course) they were more bloated than the US budget.

JUST SAY NO! It is way too much work to pull that thing out.

David

[Dingocooke]

I laughed out (mc)loud when I read this thread, yep Ive had McLeods finest(sic), resealed it, switched from DOT4 to DOT 3, resealed again, emailed McLeod numerous times, no answer, wrote a proper paper letter with a nice sticky stamp, even used american english (just in case) its clear by McLeods (total and utter lack of) response that they know the 'product' is not suited to purpose; that is unless your purpose is on a race or strip car that will have the engine gearbox pulled frequently and a reseal then is no real chore.
I gave up and put my Mcjunk in the bin marked 'dont ever use again', I was going to throw it in the river but felt sorry for the fish!!

Whatever you plan to do, build an external slave system; I was hindered by the spaceframe chassis on the car I had then (a RAM cobra replica), but got around it by using an external Wilwood pull cylinder slave; presto a leak free result (this was on an ED kitted 302 SBF with Tremec TR3550TKO and steel scattershield).

My opinion? The McLeod hydraulic bearing is expensive junk, I cant speak for other manufacturers throw out bearings, but the very fact that theyre installed inside the bell housing makes a reseal a gearbox out job, whereas an external slave cylinder reseal is a casual saturday morning walk in the park:-)

My experience from this side of the pond!!

[Naumoff]

Originally Posted by Dingocooke

I laughed out (mc)loud when I read this thread, yep Ive had McLeods finest(sic), resealed it, switched from DOT4 to DOT 3, resealed again, emailed McLeod numerous times, no answer, wrote a proper paper letter with a nice sticky stamp, even used american english (just in case) its clear by McLeods (total and utter lack of) response that they know the 'product' is not suited to purpose; that is unless your purpose is on a race or strip car that will have the engine gearbox pulled frequently and a reseal then is no real chore.
I gave up and put my Mcjunk in the bin marked 'dont ever use again', I was going to throw it in the river but felt sorry for the fish!!

Whatever you plan to do, build an external slave system; I was hindered by the spaceframe chassis on the car I had then (a RAM cobra replica), but got around it by using an external Wilwood pull cylinder slave; presto a leak free result (this was on an ED kitted 302 SBF with Tremec TR3550TKO and steel scattershield).

My opinion? The McLeod hydraulic bearing is expensive junk, I cant speak for other manufacturers throw out bearings, but the very fact that theyre installed inside the bell housing makes a reseal a gearbox out job, whereas an external slave cylinder reseal is a casual saturday morning walk in the park:-)

My experience from this side of the pond!!

You must drink Budweiser and put ice in your tea. I didn't think the Brits were big whiners.

David,
That Jamo is behind everything.

[Roscoe]

Dave,

Who is they? Tilton? McLeod? Mine is a Tilton.

[David Kirkham]

I haven't used a Tilton. I hear from many sources they are great. All of our troubles have been from the McLeod.

David

[David Kirkham]

I guess I should post here we didn't use the Tilton because they don't (at least they didn't) make a unit that would work with a FE. The distance between the tranny and the pressure plate is very short on an FE and they didn't have a throw out bearing that would fit in the small distance. I don't know if they do now or not.

David

[Naumoff]

I am running a McLeod.

Just goes to show that you can't trust rubbers.

It will only be a matter of time before the seals will have to be replaced.
Hopefully it will last as long as the clutch.

David, The cars you have with no problem, do they get driven a lot?

And do the cars that fail sit a lot?

Just curious. I drive my car every chance I get. I do believe that sitting is bad for a car.

[Morris]

David

Tilton has a special Input housing that they made for their t/o bearing and a TKO trans......it is a special order (10 housings at a time) but they work extremely well and last a long time. Just replace the input shaft housing and you are off and running.

We're using the Tilton T/O bearing with a McCleod Magnum clutch and a fly wheel that looks like swiss cheese.......

Like you and many others we tested and worked with the McCleod T/O bearing and could never get it to work with any consistence.....

Morris

[David Kirkham]

Tony,

Actually, the cars that blew up were driven quite a bit. My car, and Thomas' car that don't have any problems are hardly driven at all.

Morris,

I will have to look into that! Thanks for the info!

David

[Naumoff]

Originally Posted by David Kirkham

Tony,

Actually, the cars that blew up were driven quite a bit. My car, and Thomas' car that don't have any problems are hardly driven at all.

Morris,

I will have to look into that! Thanks for the info!

David

Well there goes my theory...........Thanks a lot David.

[David Kirkham]

A lot of my theories get shot down with data too!

David

[Jamo]

Yup...McLeod did something.

The first one (when the car was brand spanking new in 2003) went two years without any problems and just an ever so slight drip from the scattershield drain hole.

Decided to put a new one in when we changed the clutch in 2005 just cuz we had the engine/trans out. Violated one of my own phuking rules ("...if it ain't broke..."). The new McLeods were supposed to be mo betto with the banjos, etc.

Had to pull it twice soon thereafter...screw that.

Used another rule to overcome the violation of the first rule. KISS.

[Roscoe]

Suck the mop??

Now that's a new one..

Roscoe

[David Kirkham]

Roscoe,

It does give a nice visual--especially if it was just used to clean the bathroom.

David