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08-25-2007, 02:58 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: E-M Cobra Ford FE 427 w/ Webers 48 IDA
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Tilton Manual brake question
Hello all,
I am using a Tilton manual brake setup. I would like to find out from you guys running the same system, if you are using a return spring for the brake pedal.
If you are not using a return spring to bring the pedal back to proper height how did you accomplish this.
Any feed back will be apprieciated.
Thanks
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08-26-2007, 09:09 AM
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Mine come back by themselves. Don't know why yours do not..
Roscoe
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08-26-2007, 09:56 AM
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The break pedal should return on its own. The use of a return spring should not be necessary and could be dangerous if the plunger rod is not captured at both ends. Tilton makes several different pedal assemblies. Which one are you using? Maybe you could post a pic of your setup. You should be able to adjust the pedal height by turning the threaded plunger rod in or out.
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08-26-2007, 10:00 PM
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Let me clarify my situation. After bleeding my system the pedal does return, but it does not return to the original height. When adjusting my brake light bracket I notice after a few brake pedal usage my brake lights remain on indicating to me that the pedal is not returning to proper height.
Question #1 - Should I have to remove the balance bar or disconnect 1 side to bleed the system when bleeding it with the 2 person bleeding process?
The system that I am using is a Tilton (2) 3/4 brake front separate from rear and a 7/8 clutch. This is a manual braking system.
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08-27-2007, 05:17 AM
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There are internal springs that should return the pistons in the master cylinders to their fully extended position. Disconnect the links to the pedals. If the master cylinder pistons are not returning, the masters are defective. If they are returning, check for binding in the pedal linkage.
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08-27-2007, 01:39 PM
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This leads me to a second question.
I just got off the phone with Tilton and the tech told me that I need to bleed the front and the rear at the same time. Here is the procedure.
1) Jack up the right side of the car with front and rear tires in the air.
2) Wait 30 - 45 minutes
3) Insert tube into a container and hook up the other end to the bleed on caliper
4) depress pedal several times and have 2 people bleed the fron and rear at the same time.
Repeat process for other side.
Is this the method you guys are using to bleed the system with balance bars?
Also what brake fluid are you using?
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08-27-2007, 01:42 PM
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Yes. I bleed left and right not front and back. I use hi-temp racing fluid and pressure bleed (the only way to bleed).
Roscoe
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08-27-2007, 02:06 PM
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Invest in a good power-bleeder and be done with it. Otherwise, disconnect the balance bar and bleed one caliper at a time. This way you will know each line and caliper is solid. Also, on the caliper, make sure the bleeder is the highest point. Builders don’t always think about trapped air when deciding on the caliper location. By disconnecting the balance bar you can also see if it’s the front or rear master cylinder that giving you a problem.
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