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09-17-2007, 06:48 PM
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DragonSnake tyre sizes
I'm putting a DragonSnake together. Anybody know tyre sizes, modern day equivalent?
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09-17-2007, 06:54 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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Mr Bruce,
Don't tease us, where are the pics?
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09-17-2007, 06:59 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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I have no idea how this relates to modern equiv's, but the original Dragonsnake spec sheet calls out:
Goodyear All-Weather, tubeless, 105-264-430
Goodyear Slicks, 7.10 x 15 x 8in. wide
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09-17-2007, 07:04 PM
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No pics untill I get some wheels/tyres, Doin' El-Cid. Carlisle and Hershey are coming up, I'll be looking for vintage wheels, and check with Coker, or Radir on the slicks.
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09-17-2007, 07:10 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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I think El Cid ran with spokes up front and American Mags in the rear.
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09-17-2007, 07:15 PM
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"Werks, yep ,that's the look I'm after. Check out page 141 of Feidman's book. Looks like they painted the front wires black. Larson ran wires on the front too.
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09-17-2007, 07:19 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
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Ran spokes up front (painted black) in 1964
Used American Mags all around and big 'uns slicks in 1965
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2248. Princess Blue/red interior. Invoiced to Shelby American 11/29/63. Shipped to L.A. 12/11 about the "SS Ebre." 2240 was invoiced on 2/5/64 to Hans Schmidt (Williamsville, NY) as " 1 Cobra-Ford, chassis #CSX2248" ($5,995.00); with 1 electric fuel pump, #C4SA 9000-5 ($64); 1 scattershield, #C4SA 6392 ($84.50); 1 pair of racing headers ($110); 1 racing distributor ($41.50); vented valve covers ($19.73); regular valve covers (n/c); racing heads ($617.50); a hood scoop ($43.45); 4S transmission ($333.20); 4.26:1 rear end ($420); English tires (n/c); 2 M&H 7" 7.10 x 15" slicks ($190.80); 2 tubes ($20.36); and 2 dual 4V carburetor and manifold set($271.50), for a total of $8,211.54. The car was shipped air-collect to NY. Schmidt set up 2248 for AHRA A/Sports drag racing, running it during '64 in Princess Blue with a dark blue, small-window hardtop, a chrome roll bar, Belanger headers, 6" painted wires on the front, and 5-spoke American alloys with M & H slicks at the rear. Along with numerous class victories, Schmidt won the Winternationals (Daytona Beach, FL), the West Coast Regionals, and the "Big Go South" in '64. For '65, the car was repainted black with "El Cid" lettered in white on the front fenders. The car ran Webers or 2 - 4's, depending upon whether Schmidt was entering the car in A/Sports or B/Sports class. Eventually, the wire wheels gave way to 5-spoke Americans at the front as well as the rear. IN '65, Schmidt won the Arizona State Championships as well as the AHRA Winternations, achieving a 10.86 ET @ 124.36 MPH. In '67, the car was advertised through Schmidt's corporate entity, Jan-Cen Automotive (Depew, NY): " 1964 Cobra 'El Cid.' The fantastic world speed and elapsed time record holder AHRA. Set up and ready to race. Balanced and blueprinted 289 CID Ford with Webers and 2 - 4 bbls. Belanger headers, M & H 900 x 15 9-inch tires, 4 American mags, Crane cam and heads, Hurst shifter . . . $11,000 with trailer, $9,500 without." The car apparently did not sell and Schmidt removed the engine in '68 for use in a GT350 drag car. CSX2248 was stored in a warehouse in New York state that caught fire in '69. Although the Cobra was pulled out of the structure before the inferno destroyed it, the car suffered substantial damage and was left outside as a burned wreck until found and purchased by **** in '82. Since then, numerous new pieces have been acquired and a leisurely restoration begun. 2248 was pictured in Friedman's Shelby Cobra, p. 141 (right).
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09-17-2007, 09:01 PM
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The REAL "El Cid" is (slowly) being put back together as we speak, probably not until the March Meet in Bakersfield in '08.
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