The Fast and Furious- Tokyo Drift

MaSnaka · #1 (**permalink**) 10-31-2007, 11:24 AM

I watched this movie last night. The cars were raced but always sliding or drifting through the turns, full throttle, spinning tires. I was always under the impression when sliding in turns your losing speed and this should be avoided. Are these cars actually going faster by this drifting method or is it more of an art form of style not meant for max speed? Looks cool but inefficient.

Thanks, John

RedBarchetta · #2 (**permalink**) 10-31-2007, 11:29 AM

I tried to watch this film on a flight to Hong Kong...the dialogue and story line was so hokey that I had to shut it off. I will say this though...the drivers that can maintain that level of pinpoint control while drifting all over the place is respectful (not withstanding all the re-takes when they undoubtedly crunched fenders and quarter panels).

patrickt · #3 (**permalink**) 10-31-2007, 12:58 PM

Power-drifting a short wheelbase car like the Cobra is not for the faint of heart. Although I think I recall Excalibur making the cover of a magazine doing just that.

Yetiman · #4 (**permalink**) 10-31-2007, 01:46 PM

Drifting isn't about speed, it's about style.

Not my thing, but it sure looks fun (especially when the guys on the show "Fifth Gear" do it on any of the new Lamborghini's !).

Russ Dickey · #5 (**permalink**) 10-31-2007, 01:57 PM

The only thing good about that piece of crap movie was that it starred Nathalie Kelley:

If it wasn't for her, I might have actually slammed my head through the TV.

As far as actual drifting goes, it's all about the show. I've seen it live and gotten to ride with a guy while drifting, and I must say, the car control is impressive.

Manowar · #6 (**permalink**) 10-31-2007, 02:10 PM

The other good thing about it was the American iron (except HEMI) had
World Merlins in them!

CobraDan · #7 (**permalink**) 10-31-2007, 02:31 PM

The Real Driving Master

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/31016/the_driving_master/

Excaliber · #8 (**permalink**) 10-31-2007, 02:52 PM

Ken Miles driving style was in fact 'drifting', not like today for style and points. Back in the day that was the fastest way around the track, not the most efficient, just what was required due to suspension, horse power and tire technology of that time frame.

Who me, drift? Looks more like argricultural work to me...

MaSnaka · #9 (**permalink**) 10-31-2007, 03:51 PM

Well I agree the storyline was not great but then I wasn't expecting it to be, so no real dissapointment there. The driving was well done. Probably one of the few things keeping a lot of the japanese cars with rear wheel drive. It looks fun.

Excaliber thats some good cobra recognition...nice!

John

Slick61 · #10 (**permalink**) 10-31-2007, 04:29 PM

taken as a piece of entertainment/fluff... was an ok movie... MUCH better than the second installment, but all 3 storylines were unrealistic to varying degrees. Some of the cars were really sharp- some had WAY too many stickers for my taste. Product placement didn't seem as noticeable as it was in the second movie. Had never seen that RX-7 body kit before (Han's car)... the paint job really set it off. The car control was VERY impressive. In the EXTRAS on the DVD, all the actors got extensive driving lessons, to make the scenes look as realistic as possible- lucky bastids...

the final drift/race had a little too much CG effects in it, but that's digging a little too deep. This is an eye-candy music video for car guys. Don't expect a story to go along with it.

Russ Dickey · #11 (**permalink**) 11-01-2007, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manowar

The other good thing about it was the American iron (except HEMI) had
World Merlins in them!

Huh? The only American Iron in Tokyo Drift was the Mustang fastback (pictured above), and they swapped a freaking Nissan Skyline motor into it!

I guess at the end there was a last-minute appearance by a Mopar, but I think maybe you are thinking about the first F&F movie.

Madmiles442 · #12 (**permalink**) 11-01-2007, 08:39 AM

John,
The answer to your question, though, is no, drifting is not the fastest way around a paved track.

MaSnaka · #13 (**permalink**) 11-01-2007, 10:11 AM

Thanks Mad, as I suspected.

John

Manowar · #14 (**permalink**) 11-01-2007, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Russ Dickey

I guess at the end there was a last-minute appearance by a Mopar, but I think maybe you are thinking about the first F&F movie.

Stand corrected, thank you Russ. I never saw any of the movies but I did see our engines going out. Didn't realize it was nearly two years ago.

Rich A · #15 (**permalink**) 11-01-2007, 01:09 PM

Quote:

The only American Iron in Tokyo Drift was the Mustang fastback (pictured above), and they swapped a freaking Nissan Skyline motor into it!

That's the only way you can make that heavy POS handle and still have plenty of power.

Excaliber · #16 (**permalink**) 11-01-2007, 01:20 PM

You know that Skyline motor may be the BEST overall engine around in these modern times. Lbs per horse power, strength, high rpm, able to withstand enormous boost. That IS one killer motor! It's posted some seriously low ET times when used for drag racing as well.

Russ Dickey · #17 (**permalink**) 11-01-2007, 02:55 PM

We are getting way off topic now, but I seriously doubt that a highly boosted Skyline engine would be any faster than a boosted and built small block Ford, and the handling difference would be negligible, especially if modern restomod suspension pieces were installed. Plus, it would sound like $hit.

I appreciate the creativity and engineering prowess that it takes to do some swaps like this, but I still think they are retarded and pointless.

Excaliber · #18 (**permalink**) 11-01-2007, 03:39 PM

Well it is pretty weird dropping a 6 in there.

Top of the line factory Skyline makes 500 horse from the 2.7 liter, with warranty, not bad! Skylines are hugely popular here in Hawaii. Rumor has it some Aussies are getting 800 horse out of one. Impressive numbers.

kris-kincaid · #19 (**permalink**) 11-01-2007, 04:19 PM

Just an FYI, the actual Mustang in the movie that was used in the stunts had an American V8 in it. The Skyline engine was used for photos only.

CobraDan · #20 (**permalink**) 11-01-2007, 04:24 PM

Although Nissan never imported the Skyline GT-R to the United States, the supercar still found its way into America's automotive consciousness. In fact, buying one in the U.S. became relatively easy. By the dawn of the 21st century, several hundred had been imported.

So prominent had the Nissan Skyline GT-R become that in 2003's 2 Fast 2 Furious, the film's hero drove and raced one through the streets of Miami. And the actor Paul Walker, who played the role, bought his own and modified it.