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01-11-2009, 01:08 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
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My buddy Chad has a mechanic shop and he has 4 of the industrial size 2 post's and are larger than this unit. The only problem I have is since I lowered my Cobra, I have to drive on 2x4's to raise the car up high enough to get his yellow arms under the car. I don't think I'll have a problem with it being smaller but, thank you for asking and I'll contact them with the question.
Do you have a Cobra also ?
Thanks Dean,
Kevin
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01-11-2009, 06:00 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Yorba Linda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF w/392CI stroker
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FUNFER2
Do you have a Cobra also ?
Thanks Dean,
Kevin
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Yes I do. See my gallery for pics of my ramp system.
When I added the C5, I tried to make the ramps work for the longer chassis. Had to build longer bridges/extensions and a longer incline ramp. You wouldn't think it, but the Cobra (even with a 4.5" clearance on the front oil cooler shroud, oil pan and bellhousing) sits HIGHER than the Corvette! The door sills on the C5 are L-O-W! It ended up extending the ramp out of the garage, so I ditched it (after building it!) and made some other contraptions for getting the C5 off the ground for maintenance.
Anyway, I would research the wheel centers, front to back, on a Porsche and then compare that dimension to your Cobra. In that video, the angle wasn't optimal but it looked like to me that those yellow outriggers came awfully close to the tires when they were swung under the car. I saw that and that's what made me think twice if they would work on a Cobra.
The alternative is that you slide the outriggers into place after you have driven your car up on small sections of 2x10. Like sliding the business end under the car and then sliding the linkage end into the hoists. Just have to be more delicate, that's all.
Then again, maybe my eyes are shot and it will all work just fine. It is a pretty cool set-up for those that either don't have the room for a 4 post, or want the ease of a lift but don't want it in the way all the time.
I really like the original Qwik Lifts...just couldn't afford one. So I made my own.
-Dean
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01-13-2009, 07:31 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Meriden,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427 SC s/n 718, 428 FE
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After following this thread for the last week, I finally pulled the trigger and bought a 4-post. I got the special from American Automotive after spending a couple of hours pricing and reading specs. The 2-post almost had me sold, but I really wanted the extra car storage that came with the 4-post. The Quik-Lift wasn't an option for me, as it was just too expensive for what it offered and didn't seem too much better than four jackstands. I'm just tired of laying on my back working on my cars. I think the 4-post is the biggest bang for your (my) buck. Thanks for all the input, as all arguments had their merits.
Just got an email from them...the special is being continued until Friday. Good deal.
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01-13-2009, 08:35 PM
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Congratulations!!! Each post can be handled by an individual, the ramp without the cylinder by two. The ramp with the cylinder either 4 or two and a floor jack. Very easy to assemlbe and hard to do wrong. All the fansterners just hold pieces in place, they do not "support" anything. The ramps overhand the cross bars for support. Make sure after you are done your hydraulic hose it angled up under the runway so the cable does not drag, no real big deal if it does since it is armored under the rubber but with a slight adjustment it will not touch. It will be obvious.
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Originally Posted by ZOERA-SC7XX
After following this thread for the last week, I finally pulled the trigger and bought a 4-post. I got the special from American Automotive after spending a couple of hours pricing and reading specs. The 2-post almost had me sold, but I really wanted the extra car storage that came with the 4-post. The Quik-Lift wasn't an option for me, as it was just too expensive for what it offered and didn't seem too much better than four jackstands. I'm just tired of laying on my back working on my cars. I think the 4-post is the biggest bang for your (my) buck. Thanks for all the input, as all arguments had their merits.
Just got an email from them...the special is being continued until Friday. Good deal.
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01-13-2009, 08:38 PM
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If you need info on how to get your garage door closer to the ceiling pm me and I will give you my phone number. You have a couple different options depending on your setup, I can communicate in 10 minutes with part numbers what took me 4 months to research. None of our local door people will have clue, if it not generic they are useless.
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01-13-2009, 09:36 PM
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Deam- very nice cobra. Love the red and the car sits just right.
ZOERA-SC7XX- I'm thrilled to death, I just ordered a TWO post lift from a company.
http://www.gesusa.com/Dannmar-MaxJax...-p/1375659.htm
http://www.maxjaxusa.com/
http://www.dannmar.com/products/two-...jax/index.html
It's called the MaxJax. The vertical post's are only 89" and my garage ceiling weight is 108" (9 ft) (7,000 lb weight) The are pads only 3.5" tall so, for our Cobras or any low car, they will go under the car. My friend has a mechanic shop and has four lifts like this unit but, being larger, I have to drive my cobra on 2x4's to get it up high enough so the arms can go underneith.
Now, I can take out my tranny, all suspension work, brake jobs ect...... without laying on my back !
Really, I mean no,...dissrespect with the Kwik Lift, I also like it but, the ramps can be if your way, and to lift 2/4 wheels/tires off the ramp for brake work, suspension ect. you have to use bottle jacks (or the like) to get it up in the air. A lot of work compared to this 4 post lift. And since this MaxJax has saftey stops, just like my friends larger lift's, you can store your car up in the air, like the 4 post.
It's a awesome lift and can't wait for it !
If you guys or anyone else want one, I can get you a great deal but, you MUST, contact me only, for now,...ok ?
I will work my best to get you this deal for any of you.
$1,800 and Free Shipping !
There is so much more you can do with this lift and, you can still stand up.
This lift is so compact, I'll have no problem even leaving it up or store it away in a corner. It is totally portable.
You do anchor it into the ground with threaded, expansion bolts but, take the bolt's out and store it. The arms have simple pins, pull them out to store.
Even in my small garage, I plan on leaving my post's in all the time but, I may at times remove the arm's for even more room. If you look at the photo's, you'll see that all of the parts store in a nice small package. The post come with dolly wheels to make moving them very easy to move. I even thought of household jobs I could use it for. Put a sheet of plywood on each pad and I'll have a work bench. Building anything, welding ect. With my bad back, even putting my big dogs on the sheet high enough for me, and give them baths. lol
Any questions just email me. I will give you my number to call me if you wish.
(again, only contact me)
cobrakev@galaxycable.net
(this will work great for my motorcycle & ATV)
Thanks,
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01-13-2009, 11:36 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4758, CSX 381 Keith Craft 482 w/ Weber 48 IDA's
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http://cgi.ebay.com/LIFTMASTER-3800-...3A1%7C294%3A50
Moving garage door openers to the side.....Liftmaster 3800 on ebay. $315 Buy it now with shipping. Easy if you have above door torsion spring rod 1" in dia. for sectional doors up to 14 ft high.
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01-14-2009, 08:46 AM
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You can get the 3800 for $300 including shipping off ebay. If you have the torsion springs and move your door closer to the ceiling, in otherwords move your elbows up you also need to convert to high lift drums. They are conical shaped and cost about $30 for a pair, if you are just moving you opener out of the way then the liftmaster is the way to go.
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01-14-2009, 08:49 AM
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Funfer2,
Nifty lift at a good price!!! Once again the decision fall on storage or repair, what is the max height under the car the lift will go to?
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01-14-2009, 08:52 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Hurricane HM1073 Keith Craft Genesis 427FE/482 CI
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How thick does the concrete need to be for the MaxJax?
I've been told at least 10" for a 2 post and 7" for a 4 post.
Just want to make sure everyone is covered, including myself, before looking at this.
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01-14-2009, 10:19 AM
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Also a very BIG ISSUE for these two post lifts. No matter what the thickness of your garage slab, make sure it is not a two-way post-tensioned slab. If it is, you are highly advised not to drill anchor holes in them or as an option, you may have a non-destructive x-ray company come out and spot the hole locations for you prior to drilling. Drilling without checking first in these slabs may cause a tendon in the slab to fail, posing a potential safety risk for whatever structure is on top of the slab....meaning your garage or house.
However, where they mark safe areas to drill, may not be in the exact place you wanted to place the lift. One more thing to check off on your list prior to buying.
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01-14-2009, 10:23 AM
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What's a post tensioned slab? Tom, just kidding.
Yes, you would not want to snap one of those tightly wound steel tendons.
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01-14-2009, 10:33 AM
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Just about the opposite of pre-stressed I reckon. You crack me up. Get it?
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01-14-2009, 11:50 AM
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4 post lift does not require a 7" thick slab!!! Hell the foot print of the post base (12"x12") is 3 times the footprint of your tire!!!!! Sheet you could probably put it on a gravel driveway. Now a two post makes me real nervous with the bending forces involved.
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01-14-2009, 12:29 PM
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Thank you Madmaxx, just got to think things through sometimes.
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01-14-2009, 02:24 PM
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In the world of steel, cables and weld, 10,000 lbs does not even scratch the surface. A decient weld is 70,000lbspsi, a bad one 20,000 psi. Heck 4 post 8,000 lb lift is only 2400 lbs per leg (including weight of lift), load bearing is 16psi on the floor if you have a 12"x12" (144in^2) plate on the bottom of the leg which is standard. Standard home depot quickrete is 3000 psi compressive strenght.
You can haul your groceries in a dump trunk or an escort, they both work great but one is overkill.
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01-14-2009, 02:33 PM
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madmaxx- lol, you're correct.
Very good safety questions, and I will try to ease your concerns.
A 4" slab with either rebar or the cattle fencing, is just fine.
Most residential or commercial foundations are strong enough to support a MaxJax lift. The minimum requirements is 2500-3000 PSI 4" thick concrete.
Think of it this way, if a loaded concrete truck, or like for me, having a dump truck with a full load of dirt or compost every spring, back up in my driveway and not crack the concrete. I'm not even concerned with the heavy weight of the delivery truck, with my lift in it and I'm sure he will have other products in the truck for other deliveries. The company has tested this system many ways, before marketing it.
Like I mentioned, my friend that has the mechanic shop, all of his are two post's. Now, they are the larger capacity for very heavy vehicles but again, they are two post not four.
Here are the Specifications-
Lifting Capacity: 7,000 Lbs. / 3175 Kg.
Style: Portable Two Post Lift
Overall Height: 89" / 2261 mm.
Height of Column: 64" / 1626 mm.
Typical Width (Outside of Base Plate): 105" - 125" / 2667 mm. - 3175 mm.
Arm Reach (Min.): 24" / 610 mm.
Arm Reach (Max.): 44" / 610 mm.
Min. Pad Height: 3.5" / 89 mm.
Max. Lift Height (Pad only): 45" / 1143 mm.
Max. Lift Height (With 3" Adapter): 52" / 1321 mm.
Motor: 110-220 VAC / 50-60 Hz. 1Ph.
Time of full Rise: 30-Seconds
Individual Column Weight: 300 Lbs. / 136 Kg.
Shipping Weight: 880 Lbs. / 399 Kg.
Shipping Dimensions: 14" x 64" x 40" / 356 mm. x 1626 mm. x 1016 mm.
I also want to say that I am not, a dealer. When I believe in a product, I'll voice my opinion, good or bad. I use the same forethought when buying different products for our sprint car. Proof is in the pudding.
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01-14-2009, 02:38 PM
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Could have not said it better !
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01-14-2009, 03:16 PM
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I agree with funfer, any residential slab with any mesh should be fine. The big difference between a two post and four post relative to loading is 4 post is all compressive strenght and zero tension. With a two post there are bending moments on the base plate which result in tension. Concrete in tension is not a desirable trait, it is best when compressed that is why bridge supports have an bow so that they are always being compressed. Once again amount of load has to be considered, alot of nothing is nothing and that is what is found with these lifts for our cars.
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01-14-2009, 03:44 PM
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If there's enough interest, maybe I should start a new post and see if we can get a "group buy". That would be cool.
What do you guys think ?
Kevin
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