Big Bucks - Page 2

thorconstr · #21 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 10:56 AM

Not bad, twice the price for the same car with a Shelby name plate. But it's "real". I'm sure that CobraDan is just overjoyed with his "Shelby" investment. "A little rich"? Lets see $125,000.00 or so for a roller (Finish line doesn't pay close to that) and $200,000.00 for engine, trans, paint, drysump, assorted extras, labor, and a meager profit. Sound fair to me!

Excaliber · #22 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 11:27 AM

Was that a stainless steel frame, add cost? The comp configuration with dry sump will certainly add to the cost. EFI, add some more. Competition brakes, keep the $$ coming.

BUTT, when the smoke has cleared, over $300K? Gimme a break, thats WAY more than just a little over priced, it's ridiculous. Finish Line lost my respect with the "I'm Dieing and can't drive my car" thread some time back. Sounds like there STILL in a financial bind, maybe this ONE car will help them get back on track.

Jamo's right, this don't belong in the Shelby forum, the Lounge comes to mind, maybe the Joke thread. All Cobra Talk is being merciful.

Jamo · #23 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thorconstr

Jamo, This thread is about an overpriced 427 Comp Shelby by Finish Line Motorsports, Inc. of Las Vegas, a licensed Shelby dealer. Where pray tell would you submit this thread, under ERA, or Kirkham?

Right where I put it...

thorconstr · #24 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamo

Right where I put it...

Jamo,
Just for my own clarification, when discussing a Shelby product, what factor decides if the topic is lofty enough to be in the Shelby forum?

Jamo · #25 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 04:37 PM

We don't use "loftiness" as a measure.

You weren't talking about the product...you were commenting on the dealership, which is a separate entity from Shelby. Shelby sells the roller, and has nothing to do with the finished product as it is finished by a dealer thereafter. Relevence is something we look for.

Hope this helps...you are most welcome.

thorconstr · #26 (**permalink**) 11-11-2007, 04:38 PM

Thank you.

REAL 1 · #27 (**permalink**) 11-12-2007, 07:59 PM

Got some information on the $325K CSX car. It is a full comp car with special race chasis, dry sump engine and completely fitted out for competition. Also, there are only going to be 12 built with a special MSO. I was told there are at least 200 hours into each car.

Finish Line also will sell standard CSX Continuation series cars. Aluminum cars are now $115,000.00 for a bare unfinished roller chasis with a 12 to 14 month delievry time. Final finished out the door for a standard aluminum Continuaton CSX is now $160K to $175K done right.

For those that think the CSX Comp car is "overpriced" thats fine. Don't buy one.

Jamo · #28 (**permalink**) 11-12-2007, 11:37 PM

Oh yeah...here's some real information. Friend here in Fresno has waited over two freeking years for a CSX being built by them, with a series of broken promises every time they ask for more money.

And he's not even dying.

Amazing bullsh!t...at least Texas shut down their version.

Durt · #29 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 12:32 AM

My favorite two factoids on this piece of absurdity?

At $325K, the "racing stripe" is an $850 option, and Shelby's signature will be included "if possible and desirable."

Why is it every time I see someone entering the high dollar realm of 21st century Cobra ownership - "real" or otherwise, I see Elmer Fudd with his head turning into a sucker or a pork chop?

Excaliber · #30 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 01:37 AM

Quick, somebody buy this car so they can finish building Jamo's friends car (no doubt there out of money for parts)!

Murphy · #31 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 05:40 AM

You have mis-read this car. It is a 427 COMP (High COMPENSATION) car, ask the seller.

thorconstr · #32 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamo

Oh yeah...here's some real information. Friend here in Fresno has waited over two freeking years for a CSX being built by them, with a series of broken promises every time they ask for more money.

And he's not even dying.

Amazing bullsh!t...at least Texas shut down their version.

It seems only fair, if you are putting out $40K to $50K more for a "REAL" car that you should have it completed in a reasonable time span. The 427 Comp car according to "Real 1" has 200 hours of labor. Lets see.........my God, that's 5 weeks of labor for one man. Maybe they only work 8 hours a month, that would explain the 2 year wait. So your friend should have his car in about 2 1/8 months. Damn, the 200 hours was for the 427 Comp car, does it take longer for a regular car? Unreal cars are delivered as promised!

JWheaton · #33 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Got some information on the $325K CSX car. It is a full comp car with special race chasis, dry sump engine and completely fitted out for competition. Also, there are only going to be 12 built with a special MSO. I was told there are at least 200 hours into each car.

Finish Line also will sell standard CSX Continuation series cars. Aluminum cars are now $115,000.00 for a bare unfinished roller chasis with a 12 to 14 month delievry time. Final finished out the door for a standard aluminum Continuaton CSX is now $160K to $175K done right.

For those that think the CSX Comp car is "overpriced" thats fine. Don't buy one.

How did you get the information on the car? Did you have an opportunity to discuss the chasis changes for some specfics? Did they provide a good rationale for the nearly double price besides that they have "200 hours" into the car? What are we actaully getting for those 200 hours. Since you called (or however you found out) I would expect a bit more digging especially from you since you are a stickler for details and exactness.

Give me a break that it is a CSX Comp car and should double in price. As mentioned earlier in the thread by several people. There will be a buyer whose IQ does not match their wallet.

RACER X #99 · #34 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 07:40 AM

Are we ever going to run out of guys with lots of excess cash to sell these copies of original cars to?
325 K for a copy of a Comp car that is not going to be competitive in todays racing world.
First off it will need a full cage to be allowed to run in anything but a vintage class and since it is only a copy(not original) it may not be allowed to run vintage.

Serious racers are not interested in racing Cobras today in any class other than the FFR spec. series and I think they go for a little less than 325K

Just who do these guys think are gonna buy those used replica Shelbys anyway? I know two guys who have CSX 4000's for sale and nobody is willing to give them anything close to what they have invested.

Maybe if you keep them for 40 years and pass them on to your kids they can sell them for the latest 50' wide screen virtual TV.

REAL 1 · #35 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 03:51 PM

Well....aside from all the usual CSX knocks which as usual come from the CSX "have nots" all I will say is that the asking price is what it is. Finish Line said there are tremendous hours in each car, triangulated chasis, the best racing components, dry sump motor and its limited in production to 12 units with a Comp MSO etc..etc..I'm not advocating for it nor advocating against it. It is what it is. Some have been sold apparently to guys who see the value in the car. Others may not.

As far as the car not being eligble for vintage racing or whatever, who cares. Guys will use them as they want and likely most buyers will not put a $325,000.00 car on track in a serious way anyway. I'd use a FFR for that. I don't think anyone really believes these cars are competitive against todays race cars. Thats not why guys buy these cars. Get real.

There are plenty of cars that sell for more then similar or just like cars. Acuras sell for more then Hondas, Infinitis sell for more then Nissans, Lexus sells for more then Toyota, ERA sells for more then FFR, CSX's sell for more then Kirkhams (more then 2x's as much), originals sell for more then Continuations series etc...There is value there somewhere the buyers are seeing whenever a buyer lays out the difference.

Even within a brand some cars that are basically the same car sells for twice as much. As for example, a standard 997S is half the price of a GT3. Same basic car, just more toys and tweaks. Is there really twice the work in the car, twice the cost of production. Nope.

Standard aluminum CSX will now cost if done right about $170K approx. A special edition Comp CSX with special chasis and limited production is twice that number. Some see the value. Obviously the CSX "have nots" here won't cause after all its just a "replica" anyway

As far as Cranky's buddies not being able to sell their CSX for anything "close to their investment" they obviously haven't tried very hard or are looking in the wrong places. Whatever.

What I do know is that 2 buddies of mine (a Candy apple red CSX and a brushed aluminum CSX) recently sold their for over $145,000.00. The cars were each over 7 years old. Hmmm. Imagine that.

If Cranky's buddies have aluminum cars they should try again since the price of a new unfinished roller from SAI is now $115K up from $90K. For a car that "just isn't selling" the prices and values seem to keep going up. Weird!!!

Excaliber · #36 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 04:10 PM

"Have Not" issue aside, there are several other cars I'd have to seriously consider before buying this one! Like a 'real' COB or COX series AC Cobra, for instance.

Bill Kesner · #37 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 04:20 PM

Hi Guys,

I will state that Roy's timeline is roughly around 2-years, due to his small staff of talented and knowledgable employees, though the quality of their work is excellent. I won't comment on the price of the comp car, though I'm sure Shelby Autos are the ones that came up with the 12-MSO build.

- Bill -

REAL 1 · #38 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 04:22 PM

Oinie: Fair point. But thats you. Others may see it differently for that CSX # and limited production run.

RACER X #99 · #39 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 04:32 PM

I guess I am one of the have nots. But I do have the knowledge to build my own engines, maintain everypart of my car except for the paint I leave that for the show and shine types.I also have the ability to outdrive an awfull lot of the guys with REAL Cobras. Money can buy you the best car but it can't teach you how to drive.
Come on Evan when you trailer your car from NJ to LI for an oil change you don't think those guys are laughing there asses off at you.Guess how we know.

BTW would I love to have you car? Of course I would. It is one of the finest replica CSX cars ever built. Just because it's owners is an asshole is no reason the dis the car.

Have a nice day.

Madmiles442 · #40 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 04:48 PM