Club Cobra Gas-N Exhaust  

Go Back   Club Cobra > Cobra Talk Areas > ALL COBRA TALK

Nevada Classics
Main Menu
Module Jump:
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
MMG Superformance
Keith Craft Racing
MMG Superformance
January 2025
S M T W T F S
      1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31  

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 05:31 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 2
Not Ranked     
Default Latest law suit against Shelby

Browne Woods & George Announces That Disney's Hollywood Pictures Has Entered
into a New ``Quitclaim'' with Halicki Triggering a New Lawsuit against
Carroll Shelby & Unique Performance
Oct 23, 2007 4:25 PM CDT

LOS ANGELES-- (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Denice Halicki, The Original Gone in 60
Seconds, LLC and Halicki Films, LLC filed a new lawsuit in the United States
District Court for the Central District armed with a new ³Quitclaim
Agreement² and famed trial attorney Allan Browne of Browne Woods & George
LLP. Mr. Browne filed the action on behalf of Halicki and her companies
against Carroll Shelby, Carroll Shelby International, Inc., Carroll Shelby
Licensing, Inc., Carroll Shelby Engineering, Inc., Carroll Shelby Motors,
Inc., Carroll Shelby Distribution International, Inc., Carroll Hall Shelby
Trust, Unique Performance, Unique Motorcars, Inc., and Sanderson Sales &
Marketing for copyright and trademark infringement, Case No. CV-07-06859
SVW.

Hollywood Pictures Company (HPC), a subsidiary of the Walt Disney Company
and producer of the 2000 remake of ³Gone in 60 Seconds,² entered into the
Quitclaim Agreement with Halicki to clear up and forever set the record
straight over Halicki¹s rights to the starring character ³Eleanor² from the
movie ³Gone in 60 Seconds,² which also featured Nicolas Cage and Angelina
Jolie. The Quitclaim Agreement absolutely confirms that Halicki, and not any
other person or entity, owns the right, title and interest in and to all
merchandising for ³Eleanor,² the instantly-recognizable, and iconic ³souped
up² 1967 Fastback Ford Mustang, which is the ³signature² of the movie ³Gone
in 60 Seconds² 2000 (www.gonein60seconds.com).

The complaint alleges that, without the authority, consent or knowledge of
Halicki, the defendants, led by Carroll Shelby, entered into an improper and
malicious scheme and conspiracy to manufacture, market and sell ³knock offs²
of ³Eleanor² to the public, billing the car as authentic ³Eleanors² from
³Gone in 60 Seconds.² In doing so, the complaint alleges that the defendants
knowingly and deliberately sought to capitalize on and exploit ³Eleanor¹s²
fame from the movie, even though the defendants had no association with,
participation in, or connection with the creation or development of the
movie or ³Eleanor.² Indeed, the movie and ³Eleanor² are the brainchild of
Halicki¹s late husband, H.B. ³Toby² Halicki, known to all in the movie and
automobile circles as ³The Car Crash King.²

The complaint further alleges that, despite their lack of any right or
interest in the character of ³Eleanor² or the movie, the defendants, in
particular Carroll Shelby, sought to mislead the public into thinking that
they had created ³Eleanor,² they owned a right to ³Eleanor² and that they
had the permission and authority of Halicki to produce and sell the ³knock
off² vehicles. The complaint alleges that Shelby went so far as to falsely
claim that he ³shares the rights with Disney for the Eleanor name.²
Moreover, even though the defendants knew that Halicki owned the rights to
³Eleanor² and ³Gone in 60 Seconds,² the defendants intentionally took no
action to obtain a license from Halicki to merchandise the cars. Instead, as
alleged in the complaint, Steve Sanderson, the principal of defendant
Sanderson Sales & Marketing, met with defendant Carroll Shelby and officers
of defendant Shelby companies, including Neil Cummings and John Luft, and
Douglas Hasty, Chris Layne and Richard Kearby, the founders of the Unique
defendants to discuss obtaining permission from Halicki and HPC to produce
the ³Eleanor² cars.

According to Sanderson, when asked directly about contacting Halicki and
HPC, Carroll Shelby reportedly replied, ³If they sue me, I¹ll sue them right
back.²



Browne Woods & George LLP
Allan Browne, Esq.
310-274-7100
abrowne@bwgfirm.com
www.brownewoods.com

Last edited by computerworks; 11-15-2007 at 10:41 AM.. Reason: moved post from unrelated thread
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 07:44 AM
CobraEd's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Northern VA, VA
Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadsters
Posts: 2,765
Not Ranked     
Default O'l Carroll really did it this time

He is screwed:

http://www.smartbrief.com/news/aaaa/...9-3A92D8633BDD

.
__________________
LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO WORRY ABOUT GOOD GAS MILEAGE
________
Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!
________
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 08:09 AM
Power Surge's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Palm Coast, FL
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby American CSX 4241 - authentically built
Posts: 2,573
Not Ranked     
Default

I don't really understand this. The only thing used from the original movie was the actual name of the car. The from the second movie, which is the car being duplicated and sold, had nothing to do with the car in the first movie other than sharing the name. The lawsuit makes it sound like Shelby is being sued for selling copies of the car that Haliki has the rights to, but how can she have the rights to something that had nothing to do with the first movie? The only thing I can see a lawsuit over is the name.
__________________
Sal Mennella
CSX 4241, KMP 357 - sold and missed, CSX 4819 - cancelled, FFR 5132 - sold

See my car at CSXinfo.net here >> CSX 4241
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 08:38 AM
Wayne Maybury's Avatar
Canadian Gashole
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Quebec, Canada, QC
Cobra Make, Engine: Johnex 427 S/C, 351W, 472 HP, 444 lbs. torque
Posts: 2,455
Not Ranked     
Default

I think that someone should immediately go out to get the popcorn and beer. I predict that this is going to be a long one.

Wayne
__________________
Don't get caught dead, sitting on your seat belt.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 09:24 AM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Flower Mound, TX, tx
Cobra Make, Engine: Lonestar LS 427, Keith Craft 501,Toploader
Posts: 883
Not Ranked     
Default

I agree with Sal. But, Shelby's name should not ever been associated with that car in any way or form. Carroll just wanted a piece of the pie and Unique just wanted to sell more cars by having Carroll's name associated with the car. By the way, are these cars still in the registry?
__________________
" It ain't no big deal"
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 09:57 AM
CobraEd's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Northern VA, VA
Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadsters
Posts: 2,765
Not Ranked     
Default

More importantly, . . . Are they real, or continuation Eleanors

.
__________________
LIFE IS TOO SHORT TO WORRY ABOUT GOOD GAS MILEAGE
________
Utinam logica falsa tuam philosophiam totam suffodiant!
________
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 10:00 AM
imagine2frolic's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Orange Park, FL.
Cobra Make, Engine: n/a
Posts: 1,596
Send a message via Yahoo to imagine2frolic
Not Ranked     
Default

CobraEd, Just go ahead, and stir the pot a little bit more......
__________________
20mph is not fast, unless you are doing it in a 3/2, 1000sq. ft. house on 10 ft. waves!
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 10:00 AM
1ntCobra's Avatar
Abnormal CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry), PA
Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
Posts: 2,330
Not Ranked     
Default

Didn't she sue Shelby for the same thing a couple of years ago and lost?

Maybe she thinks she has better lawyers this time.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 10:07 AM
Slither's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Waddell, AZ
Cobra Make, Engine: Alum bodied CSX4266, fuel injected alloy 472, 663 hp Engine built by Dralle. Suspension by Tom Barnard
Posts: 938
Not Ranked     
Default

I don't think "Elenor" would have been as notable if Shelby hadn't decided to build replicas of the car. Shelby made the car famous by reproducing it, along with Unique. Right or wrong?
__________________
Don't underestimate the predictability of stupid!
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 10:15 AM
1ntCobra's Avatar
Abnormal CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Pottstown (East Coventry), PA
Cobra Make, Engine: Don't think I'll be getting a Cobra for a long time... Do have '94 RX-7 R2.
Posts: 2,330
Not Ranked     
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1ntCobra
Didn't she sue Shelby for the same thing a couple of years ago and lost?

Maybe she thinks she has better lawyers this time.
2004...

http://forums.bradbarnett.net/archiv...hp/t-7062.html

I wonder if this law suit is the original or a replica?
Reply With Quote
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 10:31 AM
1985 CCX's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester, NH
Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
Posts: 19,022
Not Ranked     
Default

No doubt UP saw this one coming and cashed out. Hey, Shelby will hold anyone or thing liable if he thinks it will net him some cash. It goes both ways. For example replica manufacturers, shirts, jackets, pins, have all heard from him; its all for the dollar at this point. You have to give him credit at his age and still going strong.

The very thing that made him famous all these years "Replicas" has now come full circle. Can't we all just get along?
Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 10:31 AM
Woodz428's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Freedomia,, Il
Cobra Make, Engine: Coupe,Blue w/white stripes SB; Roadster, Blue w/white stripes BB w/2-4s; SPF installer/Hot Rod-Custom Car builder
Posts: 1,376
Not Ranked     
Default

She did lose a case a few years ago. I'm no lawyer, but the difference I see is that Disney, the makers of the movie, state that she is the legitimate owner of the trademark name. I don't believe they were involved in the original case and that may have been why she lost. I think that, as far as trademark rights go, Disney is much more versed in it than any of the Shelby industries people. I amy be wrong. I do remember some blacklight poster from the 60s/70s that depicted an assortment of Disney characters having an orgy, Disney sued under trademark infringement and now those posters are probably very valuable. If any are left.
Since the original creator as well as the makers of the new movie, and I would imagine the builders of the "Eleanor", are involved in the same action, it may play out differently now. Kind of like Shelby with the Cobra name, he couldn't win because Ford owned the name. When they became partners in that action, it was a different case.
__________________
WDZ
Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 10:33 AM
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Cobra Make, Engine:
Posts: 15,712
Not Ranked     
Default

What strikes me as different and interesting in this latest round of the suit is that Disney has apparently signed a 'quit claim' to the name. Which I think will add support to her case, in essence, Disney has said, "Your right, were sorry, no go after Shelby."

Mere speculation and rumor mongering on my part, perhaps Jamo could enlighten us to the ramifications of the Disney 'Quit Claim' legal thing. I can just see Shelby making some claim like, "Well, she abandoned the thing, didn't use the name, just walked away from it all..." Man, talk about what goes around comes around!

EDIT: You guys are quick, I wasn't the only one to see this Disney connection as making this a 'new ball game' for a lawsuit!

Last edited by Excaliber; 11-15-2007 at 12:13 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 11:03 AM
Jamo's Avatar
Super Moderator
Visit my Photo Gallery
Lifetime Contributor
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
Posts: 14,445
Not Ranked     
Default

Extremely short answer: Quit claim is used by one party to disavow any rights or ownership over real or other property.

I'm not up on the earlier case she filed, but it may be that they argued she could not prove sufficient ownership/interest to bring it at that time. This evidently helps clear that up.
__________________
Jamo

Last edited by Jamo; 11-15-2007 at 11:21 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 11:12 AM
Durt's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #243 - 351W stroked to 418
Posts: 456
Not Ranked     
Default

I also read that Shelby recently discovered the components to several Buzz Lightyear action figures in a barn and plans to market them as "Continuation Buzzes."
Prices haven't been established, but rumor has it an autographed version could fetch as much as six figures.
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 01:46 PM
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Rocky River, Ohio, OH
Cobra Make, Engine: Everett-Morrison, 347 Tri-power Stroker
Posts: 678
Not Ranked     
Default

I don't know if this clears anything up, (text below is from the earlier suit), I fell asleep before I could read all the way through it.

I'm no lawyer, but if the first suit was dismissed because Disney, not Halicki, had rights to "Eleanor", than Disney subsequently doing a quit claim would give those rights back to Halicki for the new suit???

From the web...

The widow of the producer-director of the 1974 film "Gone in 60 Seconds" has filed an opening brief with the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals seeking reversal of a lower court's dismissal of her copyright and trademark infringement claims against legendary carmaker Carroll Shelby over use of a replica "star" car from the 2000 Disney remake.

In November 2005, U.S. District Court Judge S. James Otero dismissed Denice Shakarian Halicki's lawsuit against Shelby. Otero found, among other things, that only the Walt Disney Co. and its Hollywood Pictures, which produced the 2000 film, had standing to assert claims against Shelby, who partnered with a car manufacturer to recreate the original car used in the remake.

Halicki inherited the rights to the original film and the car nicknamed "Eleanor" -- a 1971 Ford Mustang that was made to resemble a 1972 Fastback Mustang -- after her husband H.B. Halicki died in 1989 in a freak accident on the set of "Gone in 60 Seconds 2."

After a legal battle with her late husband's family, Halicki sold remake rights to Disney in 1995. The remade film was released in 2000 and starred Nicolas Cage and Angelina Jolie.

As part of the deal, Halicki and Disney agreed she retained the rights to the original film and the right to merchandise the original Eleanor.

In the 2000 remake, Eleanor is a 1967 Ford Mustang Shelby GT-500. Shelby, who designed his namesake car and owns rights to it, was aware that the new Eleanor was a version of his classic car, but never sued Disney over the use of it in the film.

After the remake's release, Shelby submitted a trademark application for "Eleanor" for dye-cast metal toy cars based on the remake's Eleanor. He also registered "Eleanor" for "vehicles, namely automobiles engines for automobiles and structural part for automobiles."

Carmaker Unique Motor Cars also filed an application for the "Eleanor" trademark. Shelby and Unique eventually teamed to create Eleanor remake cars that sold for $109,000-$189,000.

But Halicki claims both Shelby and Unique Motors are using her "Gone in 60 Seconds" and "Eleanor" marks to promote their replicas without her permission.

In a 77-page opening brief filed April 16, Halicki says the lower court, which criticized her for failing to register "Eleanor" until seven months after filing suit, "overlooked a basic reason, independent of the agreement, why Halicki has standing to sue: to protect Halicki's longstanding common law rights to the unregistered trademarks. Those rights apply, no matter what the remake Eleanor looks like, because they concern the defendant's use of words not a visual appearance."

Additionally, Halicki contends the defendants have no fair use defense for their "outright appropriation of Halicki's marks."

Shelby currently owns six U.S. trademarks consisting of the name "Shelby" for automobiles and other related products.

Though he elected not to sue Disney, Shelby did file a counterclaim against Halicki for trademark infringement for the unauthorized use of the GT-500 knockoff in the film because Halicki's husband was credited as a producer on the remake.

Otero dismissed those claims on a summary judgment motion by Halicki. Deadline to file an opening brief for that appeal is Aug. 13, according to the court docket.

The brief was filed by Timothy Coates and Jens Koepke of Greines Martin Stein & Richland in Beverly Hills.

The case is Halicki v. Carroll Shelby International Inc., 06-55806.

Last edited by Dan Stryffeler; 11-15-2007 at 01:55 PM..
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 02:17 PM
Tony Radford's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Dacula, (Atlanta), GA
Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427 SC, Southern Automotive 427W Stroker
Posts: 1,649
Not Ranked     
Default

9th circuit court of appeals - aren't these the liberal wackos that condone teaching sex education to third graders using porn stars and that parents have no right to teach it themselves? I think one of the judges is married to a high-up at the ACLU. Maybe I've been watching O'reilly too much.
__________________
After a good hard ride.....oil pressure is over 50, temp is below 190, she idles and no new dents. LIFE IS GOOD!
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 02:51 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Oakham, Ma
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 592
Posts: 578
Not Ranked     
Default

Carrol made a nice car in the 60's. Now his business practices are scummy. For crying out loud how much money does he need to make? He is a bitter old man. It was aweful what he put factory five through. Good for the brothers they survived. Unfortunately, he costed all his car lovers the final bill by driving up the replica costs. Screw over SAAC and lastly, fight with the widow what a class act.............
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 11-15-2007, 03:10 PM
Durt's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #243 - 351W stroked to 418
Posts: 456
Not Ranked     
Default

I don't know that I would attribute quite so much deliberate acrimony to Shelby regarding this particular chapter in the endless parade of Shelby versus the World litigations.
Ol' Shel's had more lawsuits than hot meals. His interest in this deal is right up there with whether his socks match.
He probably has it scheduled between haircut and nap.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 09:58 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy
Links monetized by VigLink